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16:48:38 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jamesn
16:48:45 <jamesn> meeting: ARIA WG
16:48:56 <jamesn> agendabot, find agenda
16:48:56 <agendabot> jamesn, OK. This may take a minute...
16:48:56 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/2b92a902-1365-4ea0-8c68-9f8ae2106fe3/20220818T130000
16:48:56 <agendabot> clear agenda
16:48:56 <agendabot> agenda+  -> New Issue Triage https://bit.ly/3pokVPj
16:48:57 <agendabot> agenda+  -> New PR Triage https://bit.ly/3AptMqk
16:48:59 <agendabot> agenda+  -> Deep Dive planning https://bit.ly/aria-meaty-topic-candidates
16:49:02 <agendabot> agenda+ TPAC:  -> break out sessions https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2022/SessionIdeas ,  -> agenda https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
16:49:05 <agendabot> agenda+  -> "Whitespace characters" underspecified https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/128
16:49:08 <agendabot> agenda+  -> Initial aria-textseparation(depends on generic PR being merged) https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/996
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17:02:10 <spectranaut> chair ValerieYoung
17:02:24 <pkra> present+
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17:05:49 <pkra> scribe: pkra
17:06:05 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:06:05 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- -> New Issue Triage https://bit.ly/3pokVPj -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:06:47 <pkra> spectranaut: aria #1777, editorial.
17:06:48 <Github> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1777 : Allude to other widgets that allow group in group role definition
17:06:51 <pkra> ... is a good first issue?
17:07:09 <pkra> ari: I'll give it a try
17:07:33 <pkra> spectranaut: milestone 1.4.
17:07:42 <pkra> jnurthen: can always go into 1.3 is it's read
17:07:45 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:07:45 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- -> New PR Triage https://bit.ly/3AptMqk -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:07:56 <jamesn> s/read/ready/
17:07:59 <arigilmore> present+
17:08:13 <pkra> spectranaut:  aria#1779 from scotto
17:08:36 <pkra> ... I'll add myself - anyone else?
17:08:39 <pkra> jnurthen: me, too.
17:09:23 <pkra> jnurthen: does this need UA changes?
17:09:27 <pkra> scotto: not this one.
17:09:36 <pkra> pkra: me, too
17:09:51 <pkra> spectranaut: aria#1778 from scotto
17:09:58 <pkra> ... yay!
17:10:03 <pkra> ... whitespace
17:10:30 <pkra> scotto: this need careful review. please add jcraig, he edited some of this
17:10:45 <pkra> ... make sure that everything that's intended as MUST NOT is still there
17:11:18 <pkra> ... I think this covers everything but as mentioned in the PR also does whitespace as they'd have interacted
17:11:34 <pkra> cyns: add me or aaron
17:12:34 <pkra> scotto: whitespace is just linking to ascii whitespace of WHATWG
17:12:56 <pkra> ... spoke to jnurthen. CSS is the alternative which is mostly the same but somehow there's 2.
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17:13:02 <pkra> ... so this seems good.
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17:13:27 <pkra> jnurthen: CSS and HTML kind of the same. one has linefeed broken out differently because some are not valid in attributes.
17:14:09 <pkra> ... interesting that neither definition includes unicode whitespace. it's probably reasonable but i18n might not be super happy eventually
17:14:21 <pkra> scotto: and we can send them along to the other specs to change in one place
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17:14:33 <pkra> spectranaut: core-aam#135 whitespace.
17:14:36 <CurtBellew> present+
17:14:37 <pkra> ... from scotto.
17:14:51 <pkra> scotto is on a roll, shaming us all ;-)
17:14:58 <dakahn> present+
17:15:14 <pkra> jnurthen: add jcraig, james teh
17:15:41 <pkra> spectranaut: accname#165 whitespace from scotto
17:15:54 <pkra> scotto: just linking the word
17:16:04 <pkra> spectranaut: assigning reviewers.
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17:16:19 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:16:19 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- -> Deep Dive planning https://bit.ly/aria-meaty-topic-candidates -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:16:33 <MarkMcCarthy> present+
17:16:50 <pkra> jnurthen: nothing scheduled next week.
17:17:03 <pkra> ... then for Sept 1 we have one
17:17:05 <pkra> spectranaut:  popups?
17:17:09 <pkra> jnurthen: think so
17:17:29 <pkra> scotto: I will try to get the doc with aaron converted to a discussion thread on the tracker.
17:17:41 <pkra> ... hopefully we can thread responses
17:17:52 <pkra> spectranaut: and then TPAC, too
17:18:03 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:18:03 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- TPAC:  -> break out sessions https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2022/SessionIdeas ,  -> agenda https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022 -- taken up [from
17:18:06 <Zakim> ... agendabot]
17:18:36 <pkra> spectranaut: you can suggest breakout session ideas
17:18:39 <pkra> ... then there's the agenda
17:19:02 <pkra> jnurthen: some a11y session already proposed
17:19:22 <pkra> spectranaut: ARIA agenda for TPAC
17:19:24 <chlane> present+
17:19:34 <pkra> ... scheduled thursday & friday
17:20:07 <pkra> ... [see URLs]
17:20:39 <pkra> ... do people in different timezones have strong preferences so we can schedule them at reasonable times?
17:20:58 <pkra> jnurthen: everyone on the WG should be able to edit this
17:21:06 <pkra> spectranaut: let's go through topics
17:21:11 <pkra> ... decorative image.
17:21:37 <pkra> jnurthen: joint with APA, could be Tue, Thu, or Fri
17:21:52 <pkra> spectranaut: topic name prohibitied
17:22:51 <pkra> jnurthen: you can register and state that you request a free waiver.
17:23:21 <pkra> ... there's nothing extra for a waiver
17:23:46 <MichaelC> w3t-tpregister@w3.org
17:24:01 <pkra> mcooper: that's right, no questions asked. Just contact w3t-tpregister@w3.org and they'll arrange it.
17:24:44 <pkra> jnurthen: please consider registering; but WG members can attend our meetings as usual.
17:25:17 <pkra> spectranaut: review of remaining topics
17:25:35 <pkra> ... if you have other suggestions and/or scheduling preferences, please let us know
17:26:04 <pkra> jnurthen: add them to the wiki or flag issues with label "F2F-candidate" (add to repos where it doesn't exist yet)
17:26:09 <pkra> ... ping us chairs.
17:26:14 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:26:14 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- -> "Whitespace characters" underspecified https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/128 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:26:25 <pkra> zakim, close item
17:26:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', pkra
17:26:28 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:26:28 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, pkra
17:26:36 <MarkMcCarthy> zakim, close this item
17:26:36 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
17:26:37 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
17:26:37 <Zakim> 6. -> Initial aria-textseparation(depends on generic PR being merged) https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/996 [from agendabot]
17:26:40 <MarkMcCarthy> zakim, next item
17:26:40 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- -> Initial aria-textseparation(depends on generic PR being merged) https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/996 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:26:44 <pkra> zakim, close this item
17:26:44 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
17:26:45 <pkra> zakim, next item
17:26:45 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
17:26:45 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, pkra
17:26:57 <MarkMcCarthy> zakim, take up item 6
17:26:57 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- -> Initial aria-textseparation(depends on generic PR being merged) https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/996 -- taken up [from agendabot]
17:27:21 <pkra> thanks, mark
17:27:32 <pkra> spectranaut: reminder for Matt but he's not here
17:27:35 <pkra> ... and that's it.
17:27:54 <pkra> jnurthen: back to work, people!
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17:28:54 <MarkMcCarthy> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:28:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/18-aria-minutes.html MarkMcCarthy
17:29:13 <pkra> thanks, mark!
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