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11:02:39 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan
11:02:47 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketine
11:02:54 <kaz> s/Marketine/Marketing/
11:03:00 <Ege> do you hear me
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11:05:48 <kaz> s/do you hear me//
11:05:56 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
11:08:03 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
11:08:52 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#August_9.2C_2022
11:09:06 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
11:09:29 <kaz> topic: Minutes
11:09:34 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/08/02-wot-marketing-minutes.html Aug-2
11:11:47 <Ege> ek: initials should be fixed in the minutes
11:12:07 <Ege> ... anything else to fix?
11:12:14 <Ege> dp: they look good
11:12:16 <Ege> ek: approved
11:12:25 <Ege> topic: PRs
11:12:39 <Ege> ek: PR 334 about WG charter dates
11:13:07 <kaz> i/PR 334/subtopic: PR 334/
11:13:19 <Ege> ek: looks good to me
11:13:38 <Ege> ek: I hear no objections, let's merge
11:13:39 <kaz> i|PR 334|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/334 PR 334 - update WG Charter dates|
11:14:32 <Ege> subtopic: PR 302 about articles page
11:14:40 <Ege> ek: I had started this PR some time ago
11:14:49 <Ege> ... but now we have statistics that influence my decision
11:16:27 <Ege> ek: we can either keep the URL or close this PR?
11:16:45 <Ege> ... any opinions?
11:17:48 <Ege> ek: about 8 to 10 percent come to our webpage via the documentation page
11:18:35 <Ege> dp: we can also redirect the url
11:18:45 <Ege> ... we should avoid making such changes in general
11:19:01 <Ege> ek: yes, also the top level bar should be generic so that we can add more items under them
11:21:16 <Ege> subtopic: PR 336 about page
11:21:25 <Ege> ek: I have taken taki's work and extended it
11:22:22 <kaz> i|I had started|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/302 PR 302 - Organizing articles|
11:22:51 <Ege> dp: where does it go?
11:22:51 <kaz> i|I have taken|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/336 PR 336 - Adding History of the Standardization|
11:22:53 <kaz> q+
11:23:13 <Ege> ek: under about page
11:23:21 <Ege> ... contact page does not get many visits
11:24:01 <Ege> kaz: it would be nice to contact taki and let him know
11:24:26 <Ege> ek: I will send him an email
11:25:52 <Ege> ek: it looks bland, any ideas to improve?
11:26:07 <Ege> dp: a picture for each event would be nice
11:26:52 <Ege> ek: we have photos for the first F2F event
11:28:48 <Ege> ek: it would be nice to have photos of: W3C Workshop on the Web of Things 25-26 June 2014 Berlin
11:28:59 <Ege> ... F2F meeting: 20-22 April 2015 in Munich
11:29:18 <Ege> ... F2F meeting 29-30 October 2015, Sapporo, Japan
11:29:48 <Ege> ... W3C TPAC in November 2014
11:30:17 <Ege> topic: Updates
11:30:28 <Ege> subtopic: JSON Schema Case Study
11:31:50 <Ege> ek: I have some questions
11:31:57 <Ege> ... does anyone else in W3C use JSON Schema
11:32:04 <kaz> q?
11:32:59 <kaz> ack k
11:33:22 <Ege> kaz: will this be a blog post or a more serious document like a research paper which needs review from the whole group?
11:33:52 <Ege> ek: it is available at https://hackmd.io/@egekorkan/json-schema-wot
11:35:16 <Ege> ek: I would treat it as a serious document since it will in behalf of the W3C WoT (thus of W3C)
11:37:19 <Ege> ek: not sure what to say for how we influence of json schema in IoT
11:37:34 <Ege> dp: not necessarily everyone uses
11:37:41 <Ege> ek: at least to describe payloads
11:41:42 <Ege> ek: how about the amount of people in general
11:41:49 <Ege> kaz: you can visit the w3c members page
11:41:53 <Ege> ek: ok we have 464 members
11:41:57 <Ege> dp: that is companies
11:42:06 <Ege> ek: oh ok, 464 different companies
11:42:12 <Ege> ek: any way to know the amount of people?
11:42:21 <Ege> kaz: that is tricky since some people are in multiple groups
11:42:29 <Ege> ... we can say that the whole world uses www
11:42:33 <Ege> ek: not a bad idea
11:42:48 <Ege> subtopic: cancellations
11:43:26 <Ege> dp: I will most probably not be here next week
11:43:29 <kaz> q+
11:43:37 <Ege> tm: I will be here
11:44:10 <Ege> kaz: you can mention your availability
11:44:18 <Ege> ek: I will not be available from 20.08 to 05.09
11:44:43 <kaz> i|I will not|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations on the WoT main wiki|
11:45:04 <Ege> ek: I think we will cancel calls during TPAC
11:45:09 <Ege> dp: yes we generally did that
11:45:48 <Ege> topic: Issues
11:45:57 <Ege> subtopic: W3Schools Issue 335
11:48:35 <kaz> q+
11:50:12 <Ege> ek: I could not find a way to add tutorials or contact them
11:50:28 <Ege> dp: it seems that they have a tutorial for most w3c specs, that is why I thought this
11:50:52 <Ege> kaz: they are a company. a bit weird to talk about this in a public space
11:52:17 <Ege> kaz: that is helping a private company to promote their business
11:52:38 <kaz> ack k
11:54:38 <kaz> s/they are a company. a bit weird to talk about this in a public space/They are a different organization from W3C or MDN, so I'm not sure if we need to provide contents on WoT tutorial for their Web site./
11:54:48 <kaz> s/kaz: that is helping a private company to promote their businesskaz: that is helping a private company to promote their business//
11:54:53 <Ege> ek: AOB?
11:55:26 <Ege> ek: adjourned
11:55:33 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:55:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:55:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/09-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz