19:09:13 RRSAgent has joined #aria-at 19:09:13 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-aria-at-irc 19:09:45 MEETING: ARIA and Assistive Technologies Community Group 19:10:02 Alyssa_G has joined #aria-at 19:10:09 rrsagent, make log public 19:10:15 present+ 19:10:22 rrsagent, make minutes 19:10:22 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 19:10:26 JoeHumbert has joined #aria-at 19:10:34 present+ 19:10:59 present+ 19:11:02 TOPIC: Testing Schedule 19:11:44 present+ 19:11:50 James: planning to merge 7 PRs to update 7 plans 19:12:15 including switch meter, breadcrum meter, 2 sliders, spinbutton 19:12:35 A few of these may be effected by the mode switching conversation 19:14:16 Ready this week could be switch , breadcrumb, meter, main 19:16:47 Alysa available to test 2 plans using JAWS and NVDA 19:18:29 James: breadcrumb has 6 tests for windows and 3 for Mac 19:18:46 Main landmark has 10 for windows and 6 on Mac 19:19:02 Meter: 5 ffor Windows and 4 for Mac 19:19:13 Rich_Noah has joined #aria-at 19:19:13 Switch has 16on Windows and 8 on VoiceOver 19:19:59 Alysa: main landmark for both JAWS and NVDA with Chrome 19:20:30 Joe: Can do all 4 on Mac 19:22:26 James: I will email on Monday with test info 19:24:13 present+ 19:28:45 TOPIC: Testing mode automatic switching 19:30:12 Issue 795: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/795 19:43:11 Discussion of how to turn on speaking of mode switches with JAWS 19:44:33 If you turn on default settings, you can't change the setting for speaking mode switches. 20:07:03 Decisions from discussion: 20:07:44 1. We will allow this deviation from defaults to turn on speaking of mode changes in JAWS and VoiceOver and provide testers with appropriate instructions. 20:08:22 2. We will not prioritize adding mode switching assertions to plans that are already in candidate review. 20:09:13 3. We will add auto mode switching assertions to plans going forward, but prioritize plans that don't need it ahead of those that do within the 2nd flight of 16 plans 20:09:36 rrsagent, make minutes 20:09:36 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 20:10:43 The plan for JAWS is to instruct users how to enable defaults by modifying their settings directories. This will enable modifying the one setting that needs to be changed for speaking of auto mode switches. 20:10:55 rrsagent, make minutes 20:10:55 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 20:12:32 Additional decision: Add an unexpected behavior for unexpected mode switches. 20:13:52 Unexpected mode switches will not occur with JAWS if insert+z has been used to disable VC. In order to capture unexpected mode switches, we need to be sure VC is not disabled in circumstances where they are a possible behavior. 20:14:05 rrsagent, make minutes 20:14:05 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/08/04-aria-at-minutes.html Matt_King 23:43:11 Zakim has left #aria-at