12:01:45 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 12:01:45 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/07/29-wot-pf-irc 12:01:59 cris has joined #wot-pf 12:02:01 meeting: WoT Testfest - Day 5 12:04:24 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Fady_Salama, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:06:40 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1634 12:07:06 scribenick: cris 12:07:41 mc: I merged five PR yesterday 12:07:51 ... let's start from ther 12:08:02 s/mc:/topic: PRs/ 12:08:25 mc: updated the rendering script 12:08:56 ... some work on intel PRs 12:08:59 s|s/mc:/topic: PRs/|i/mc:/topic: PRs/ 12:09:03 rrsagent, make log public 12:09:05 Ege has joined #wot-pf 12:09:09 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:09:09 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/29-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 12:09:15 present+ Ege_Korkan 12:09:37 ... I created a custom token scheme 12:09:45 ... also auto 12:09:47 chair: McCool 12:10:28 ... later on a did some other updates on schemes 12:10:35 s/topic: PRs I merged five PR yesterday/mc: I merged five PR yesterday/ 12:10:43 ... I worked on combo 12:10:49 i/I merged five/topic: PRs/ 12:10:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:10:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/29-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 12:11:06 s/ther/them/ 12:11:14 ... thanks to it I was able to clean up the list of forms 12:11:31 ... and it cleaned also some assertions 12:11:43 subtopic: PR 363 12:12:53 i|I merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/391 PR 391 - Update intel-nodejs-speak TD| 12:13:15 i|I merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/390 PR 390 - Update results/intel-nodejs| 12:13:37 i|I merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/389 PR 389 - Update intel-nodejs-speak TD| 12:14:10 i|I merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/388 PR 388 - 2022 07 result updates| 12:14:21 cris: implemented a TDD for an european project, it is scalable and it implements JSONPath and events 12:14:34 i|I merged|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/387 PR 387 - 2022 07 Updates to Input Data - Day 4| 12:15:35 i|implemented|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/393 PR 393 - add VAIMEE's Thing Description Directory| 12:15:44 s/PR 363/PR 393/ 12:15:48 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:15:48 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/29-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 12:15:56 mc: there is a minor problem, you should concatenate active and manual csv 12:16:00 ... I'll do it right now 12:16:09 ... merging 12:17:33 subtopic: PR 394 12:17:56 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/394 PR 394 - improve node-wot TM results 12:19:29 cris: I checked a bunch of assertions for node-wot 12:19:38 ... there are two controversial assertions 12:20:11 ege: actually we are checking for it 12:20:53 mc: there is a TODO left 12:21:06 ... might cause problems with tooling 12:21:22 ... but I like the idea of having TODO 12:21:28 ... might integrate in the tool 12:21:34 ... other than this PR looks fine 12:21:36 ... merging 12:21:46 subtopic: PR 392 12:22:04 mc: there are some controversial topics 12:22:39 i|there are|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/392 PR 392 - more 2022 07 result updates| 12:23:15 ... I added a new huawaii TD 12:23:21 ... I use combo 12:24:07 ... this time, the controversial point is that is an update of an old implementation from Huawaii 12:24:46 ... is it ok to put the update under huawaii folder? 12:25:22 ... if we cannot I should implement a proxy to assert the same stuff 12:25:57 ege: it is fine by me 12:26:06 s/huawaii/Huawei/ 12:26:11 cris: +1 12:26:41 subtopic: PR 374 12:26:50 mc: is this still an example PR? 12:26:54 i/374/merged/ 12:26:54 fady: I'm working on it 12:27:24 topic: Updates to report 12:27:31 i|is this|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/374 PR 374 - TUM manual.csv| 12:27:39 mc: I did some updates to TD implementation report 12:28:07 ... there are 49 at risk item left 12:28:32 ... it is still not perfect but we are moving forward 12:31:50 ... running the batch script again 12:31:59 ... there are some errors 12:32:12 ... are those coming from the playground? 12:32:24 ege: it does not sound right 12:33:40 mc: it should be a playgroud problem, I didn't change anything 12:34:18 ... anyhow back to implementation report: I fixed a bunch of assertions 12:34:35 ... oAuth is left not easy to implement 12:34:53 ege: ditto has an implementation 12:35:07 ... also node-wot 12:35:46 mc: TM does not count as implementation 12:37:03 cris: node-wot should implement it 12:37:10 ege: code flow is there for sure 12:39:18 present+ David_Ezell 12:39:42 mc: there are some missing implementations for op keywords 12:39:55 ege: I did some expiremental work on some of them 12:40:09 present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh 12:42:10 mc: pretty good shape so far 12:42:39 ... I'll clean up some security 12:43:04 ... probably the only one left will be proxy 12:44:02 ... about manual assertions 12:44:11 ... UUIDs should be easy 12:44:20 ege: they should be automatically tested, right? 12:45:26 mc: I guess we can clear that off with automatic tests 12:47:02 ... there is an assertion that looks like a policy 12:47:19 ... I think we should remove it, I'll track it in a issue 12:49:40 q+ 12:49:49 ege: regarding updating it is a bit a little too much for the spec 12:50:04 mc: I'm marking this as something will do later on 12:50:21 ... regarding the offending assertion they are policy assertions 12:51:56 kaz: we should have another document about implementation guidelines 12:52:03 ... where to put those things 12:52:12 ... it is good that it is in the next charter 12:52:25 mc: we have the security guidelines document 12:52:32 ... we can use it for this matter 12:53:46 ... body extension is weird 12:54:07 i/we should have/we should clarify which part of the expected system behavior to be defined by our specs and which parts are implementation-dependent. We could clarify that using an Editor's Note for the moment, and should clearly define that by/ 12:54:12 ack k 12:55:01 ege: there are some assertions that can be moved to auto csv 12:55:37 mc: easy, as long as you are not using html strings in TD you should check pass for this assertion 12:59:11 mc: is any implementation that counts characters when loading TDs? 12:59:15 ege: playground yes 12:59:17 q+ 12:59:32 cris: node-wot sort of, Nodejs should have limtis for buffers and strings 13:02:11 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1635 13:02:51 kaz: next steps would be possibile to categorize the unimplemented features in who's going to tackle it? 13:03:16 mc: I would like to down grade to un informal statment 13:03:39 kaz: my suggestion is just categorizing the remaining issues and think about coverage 13:03:49 s/next steps/as the next step, / 13:03:55 s/would be/would it be/ 13:10:52 s/just/starting with/ 13:11:05 s/coverage/how to cover them next :)/ 13:11:26 mc: let's do that next week 13:11:34 i/let's/scribenick: kaz/ 13:11:37 [adjourned] 13:11:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:11:47 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/29-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 15:03:11 Zakim has left #wot-pf 15:10:27 kaz has joined #wot-pf