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12:00:33 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:00:42 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool
12:00:47 <kaz> chair: McCool/Sebastian
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12:06:24 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:06:35 <sebastian_> topic: guests
12:06:42 <sebastian_> MM: not guests
12:07:02 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#27_July_2022
12:07:10 <kaz> s/not guests/no guests
12:07:22 <kaz> s/topic: guests/topic: Guests and IEs/
12:07:30 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
12:07:43 <kaz> MM: an IE request from Elodie
12:07:52 <kaz> ... Sebastian, can you explain the situation?
12:08:08 <kaz> SK: some miscommunication within Siemens
12:08:24 <kaz> ... about how to let Elodie participate
12:08:36 <kaz> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:08:53 <kaz> MM: we need her expertise on Semantic Web
12:09:12 <kaz> ... for the discussion on semantic interoperability
12:09:19 <sebastian_> topic: minutes
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12:09:30 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
12:09:48 <sebastian_> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/20-wot-minutes.html
12:09:57 <kaz> i/interoperability/interoperability, so OK with accepting her participation/
12:10:04 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:10:10 <kaz> s/html/html July-20/
12:10:27 <kaz> regrets+ Lagally
12:11:45 <sebastian_> MM: we should change the "note" comment from Sebastian
12:11:53 <sebastian_> Kaz: I just did so
12:13:35 <sebastian_> Kaz: we should change titel after OPC UA
12:13:38 <sebastian_> ...done
12:13:59 <sebastian_> MM: any objection?
12:14:01 <sebastian_> no
12:14:28 <kaz> q?
12:14:40 <sebastian_> topic: Cancellations
12:15:05 <sebastian_> MM: there are no TF calls this week, also Profile & Architecture
12:15:13 <kaz> s/change titel/add a title for the WoT-CG discussion/
12:15:21 <sebastian_> ... also joint OPC UA meeting is cancelled
12:15:49 <kaz> i/topic: Cancellations/topic: WG extension/
12:16:13 <kaz> i/topic: Cancellations/MM: got W3M approval finally, and Kaz is working on the AC announcement./
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12:16:21 <kaz> i/got W/scribeick: kaz/
12:16:36 <kaz> i/there are/scribenick: sebastian_/
12:17:13 <kaz> i/guests/scribenick: sebastian_/
12:17:17 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:17:21 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:17:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:17:57 <sebastian_> MM: the pre-TPAC plugfest is not confirmed yet
12:18:16 <sebastian_> topic: TPAC 2022
12:18:24 <kaz> q+
12:18:48 <sebastian_> MM: I was dealing with the DID
12:19:30 <sebastian_> ... for the Wedneday meeting we have planed meetings so far with Automotive and DID & VC
12:19:53 <sebastian_> s/Wedneday/Wednesday
12:20:21 <kaz> ack k
12:20:27 <sebastian_> Kaz: the chair of Automtive WG will be in Vancouver
12:20:33 <kaz> q+ to mention the hybrid training later
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12:21:52 <sebastian_> MM: I will send an email to confirm the meeting
12:22:40 <sebastian_> MM: other joint calls planed?
12:23:16 <kaz> q+ Ege
12:23:18 <kaz> ack e
12:23:58 <sebastian_> Ege: Maybe we will plan a joint meeting between CG and Japanese CG
12:24:26 <kaz> q+ cris
12:24:28 <kaz> ack c
12:25:07 <sebastian_> MM: we can plan this joint meeting 30min before the Automitive meeting
12:25:09 <kaz> q+
12:25:14 <cris> ack c
12:27:46 <sebastian_> Kaz: if we have a open day, we sould be consider the conference fee costs. If external participants join only for 1h, this should be no problem.
12:27:54 <kaz> s/a open/an open/
12:28:01 <sebastian_> s/be/
12:28:41 <kaz> ack k
12:28:41 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention the hybrid training later and to
12:28:46 <kaz> q+
12:30:03 <sebastian_> Kaz: I plan a breakout session for Smart Cirty / IoT topics
12:30:13 <sebastian_> s/Cirty/City
12:30:56 <sebastian_> MM: I plan a meeting with Web and Networks IG
12:32:14 <sebastian_> <Kaz shares its screen and shows minutes from yesterday's training meeting about the hybrid meeting at TPAC>
12:33:01 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/26-chairs-minutes.html Hybrid meeting tutorial
12:33:24 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/Talks/TPAC/hybrid-training/ PLH's slides
12:34:29 <sebastian_> Kaz: we should share the slides beforhand and should use bigger text fonts
12:35:02 <kaz> <Kaz can explain the policy to the WoT participants at some point if needed.>
12:35:42 <kaz> ack k
12:37:04 <sebastian_> MM: added the link of the slides within our TPAC wiki
12:38:29 <sebastian_> MM: Manu Sporny mentioned that JSON-LD Signature is renamed to Data Integrity
12:38:52 <sebastian_> topic: Wide Review
12:39:12 <kaz> i|Wide|RCH stands for "RDF Dataset Canonicalization and Hash Working Group"|
12:39:19 <sebastian_> MM: there are some feedback from TAG
12:40:42 <sebastian_> ... Michael Legally and I already responded to them
12:40:49 <kaz> s/this should be no problem./they don't need to pay. However, we need to clarify who the invited guests would be. As I already suggested the other day, I'd repeat that it would be better to have actual "Open Day" session during our own virtual F2F meeting before TPAC given we have only 4 hours during TPAC./
12:41:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:41:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:41:22 <kaz> s/scribeick/scribenick/
12:41:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:41:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:41:57 <kaz> q?
12:41:59 <kaz> q+
12:42:11 <sebastian_> ... we should do some cleaning-up and restructuring in the Architecture call, however, we should make some detail plans when Michael Legally is back
12:42:25 <kaz> ack k
12:43:02 <sebastian_> ... we should be clear that this is only advice and not everything must be followed
12:43:58 <sebastian_> Kaz: we should plan a meeting and invite one of the TAG representative to discuss about the comments
12:44:00 <kaz> q+
12:44:04 <dape> q+
12:44:16 <sebastian_> topic: Publications
12:44:32 <kaz> ack k
12:44:52 <kaz> s/invite one of the TAG representative/invite the TAG representatives/
12:45:15 <sebastian_> Kaz: Daniel provided a PR about the change log to the previews version. Suggest to merge
12:45:34 <sebastian_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1597
12:45:48 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:46:06 <kaz> s/1597/1597 PR 1597 - Changes section WD-4/
12:46:29 <Ege> q+
12:46:49 <kaz> ack d
12:46:50 <kaz> ack e
12:47:15 <sebastian_> Daniel: I removed the JSON Schema and provided a link to github where to find the latest JSON Schema definition
12:47:35 <kaz> q+
12:48:20 <sebastian_> Ege: we should add the JSON Schemas to the official W3C domain and point to it there
12:49:20 <sebastian_> MM: any objection against this PR?
12:50:12 <sebastian_> Daniel: this is also a PR about the OAuth reference
12:50:27 <sebastian_> MM: going to merge both
12:51:01 <kaz> kaz: @@
12:52:26 <kaz> s/@@/let's merge this PR 1597 for publication. Then, Daniel and Ege, please create another issue(s) for ReSpec error and Schema installation for the main index.html and index.template.html/
12:53:15 <sebastian_> MM: Discovery is ready to go for publication as well
12:53:46 <kaz> i|Discovery|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1620 PR 1620 - ACE-OAuth replacement also merged|
12:54:21 <sebastian_> MM: for Architecture there is a static draft
12:54:32 <sebastian_> ... still waiting for a change log
12:55:17 <sebastian_> ... not ready yet for publication
12:56:09 <dape> ack dape
12:56:58 <sebastian_> MM: Profile is unsure if we have CR candidate early August
12:56:59 <kaz> ack k
12:57:15 <sebastian_> ... we have to test results yet
12:57:22 <sebastian_> s/to/no
12:58:12 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md wg-2021-extension-plan.md
12:58:30 <kaz> <McCool refers to the publication schedule above>
13:00:17 <sebastian_> for TD we are in plan. Waiting for the result of this week TestFest. One thing is about the "tm:required" which may replaced "tm:optional". I provide a PR and discuss this next week TD meeting
13:01:03 <kaz> q+
13:01:46 <kaz> topic: Testing
13:02:25 <kaz> MM: Please note that we'll use the dedicated WebEx for Testfest right after this call.
13:02:33 <kaz> topic: OPC-UA liaison
13:02:48 <sebastian_> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bk53MnYe
13:02:50 <kaz> q?
13:02:52 <kaz> ack k
13:03:24 <sebastian_> this is the new doodle to find a new candidate
13:03:38 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
13:04:00 <kaz> s/Ye/Ye new doodle to identify the better slot for the OPC-UA discussion/
13:04:25 <kaz> i/OPC-UA liaison/... (explains the current status)/
13:04:33 <sebastian_> MM: lets move to TestFest call
13:04:37 <sebastian_> adjourn
13:04:42 <kaz> i/OPC-UA liaison/kaz: let's start with the TD results as usual then./
13:04:47 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:04:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:06:44 <kaz> i/Please note/scribenick: kaz/
13:06:59 <kaz> s/this is the/scribenick: sebastian_/
13:07:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:07:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
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