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14:48:47 <Ege> start the meeting
14:49:36 <Ege> present+ Ege Korkan
14:49:43 <Ege> list attendees
14:51:52 <Ege> present+ [Ege Korkan]
14:51:56 <Ege> list attendees
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15:08:24 <Ege> topic: Greetings and Logistics
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15:10:54 <Ege> ca: you can fill the questionnaire at https://forms.gle/FkHGF2hRwf8e49Qj6 in order to give us a feedback
15:11:12 <Ege> ca: I will be back in a minute to give some time
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15:12:22 <Ege> luca: I am co founder of vaimee
15:12:35 <Ege> lr: I remember the plugfest from dusseldorf airport
15:13:08 <Ege> lr: I believe in the impact of WoT
15:14:09 <Ege> philipp: I work in my own company, I used to be in crypto organization
15:14:24 <Ege> ... I am interested in constrained devices, RIOT OS based
15:14:32 <Ege> ... we have a running implementation
15:15:28 <Ege> ... I came to know WoT while I was tinkering with Arduino, did not want to use custom protocols
15:15:38 <Ege> mm: I am co chair of WoT WG
15:15:50 <kaz> present+ Philipp_Blum, Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Ege_Korkan, Luca_Roffia, Dogan_Fennibay, Gregoria_Monari, Junde_Yhi, Salvatore_Cataldi, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
15:15:51 <Ege> ... also involved in robotics and edge, other than IoT
15:16:27 <Ege> sk: Here is Sebastian. I am co-chair of WoT WG with Michael
15:17:04 <Ege> ... I am very happy that this group is reactivated, outside of the standardization work for the community to meet
15:17:35 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool, Daniel_Peintner
15:18:01 <Ege> ... looking forward for new activities here
15:18:31 <Ege> dogan: I am from Siemens, from smart infrastructure. I am interested in a non fragmented way to do IoT
15:19:39 <Ege> daniel: I am from Siemens. I am active in working group. I am looking forward to see the community grow
15:19:50 <Ege> ... it was lacking before
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15:21:11 <Ege> gregorio: I am from Vaimee. I am here to learn more WoT, happy to be with the beautiful people here
15:22:25 <Ege> ka: I am from W3C. Team contact for the WG and IG. I am an observer today
15:23:23 <Ege> tm: I am Tomoaki Mizushima. From Internet Research Institute. I am co-editor of profile and use cases. Also co-chair of WoT Japanese CG
15:26:26 <Ege> ... we talked about WoT with japanese
15:36:04 <kaz> topic: Draft CG Charter
15:36:09 <kaz> -> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/charter-drafts/859914558bad9052cd33d42c5418be9516d6ed29/2022/wot-cg-2022.html Rendered version
15:37:02 <Ege> ca: the idea behind externalizing the documents, is to make it easier to maintain them
15:37:53 <Ege> ca: we have updated the image to reflect how to arrange the collaboration in the future
15:38:23 <Ege> ca: we can give feedback to the WG, like how something is difficult to implement
15:38:52 <Ege> ca: we will try to reach out to other CGs in the W3C
15:39:39 <Ege> ca: it might be easier to let others join plugfest like events
15:40:06 <Ege> ca: we want to support newcomers
15:40:45 <kaz> i|https|-> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Fa9tSp_xSOtJnKN2AV5qcJf7JUCNHO9D/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106655031772979203612&rtpof=true&sd=true Slides|
15:40:56 <kaz> q+
15:42:23 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
15:43:02 <kaz> kaz: given this proposed diagram, we need to clarify the relationship among the three groups: WoT IG, WoT WG and WoT CG
15:43:35 <kaz> ... also my question is: do we still need the WoT IG if the WoT CG can handle most of the IG work
15:43:43 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
15:44:10 <kaz> q+
15:44:30 <kaz> ack k
15:44:41 <Ege> mm: we can let the CG work and decide later to revise IG
15:45:02 <Ege> ... and see how a venue fits or not
15:45:27 <Ege> sk: we should leave IG mainly for collaboration between the IG and other SDOs
15:46:03 <Ege> pb: I like mccool's suggestion. we should resolve conflicts
15:46:46 <kaz> ack k
15:47:10 <Ege> ca: we can be the first contact for other SDOs and then direct them to IG
15:48:02 <kaz> q+
15:48:06 <Ege> ... we do not compete with WoT IG or WG
15:48:24 <Ege> ... outreach is a horizontal activity
15:48:42 <Ege> ka: once cg clarifies the scope, we should talk with CG contact and project team contact from W3C
15:48:45 <Ege> ... w3c management as well
15:49:18 <Ege> ... ig and wg activity is defined by the process document, CG is not
15:50:24 <kaz> ack k
15:50:24 <Ege> ... so we need W3C's approval
15:50:36 <Ege> ek: we have it as a next work item
15:51:16 <Ege> ca: we also want to organise some meeting in TPAC as well
15:51:53 <Ege> ... we want to organize monthly events after TPAC
15:52:04 <kaz> s/W3C's approval/to talk with this proposal with the W3C Team as well/
15:53:03 <Ege> ... and publish polished versions of the minutes for others to digest
15:53:30 <Ege> ek: CG work restarts after TPAC
15:53:42 <Ege> ca: you can open issues and send emails
15:54:35 <kaz> i/we want to organize monthly/kaz: in that case, maybe you're a bit late. there was a specific procedure for Chairs (including CG Chairs) to ask the Event Team to allocate a meeting during TPAC/
15:54:37 <Ege> pb: I would like to propose a chat solution in the next meeting
15:55:26 <citrullin> s/I would like to propose a chat solution in the next meeting/I would like to present something in regards of a chat solution etc. next meeting/
15:59:44 <Ege> ca: I propose to adjurn the call. Thank you all for attending!
15:59:55 <Ege> ek: Thank you all, see you in the next meeting
16:05:02 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:05:06 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:05:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:05:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/25-wot-cg-minutes.html kaz
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