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11:30:31 <kaz> meeting: WoT Marketing
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11:30:51 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Ege_Korkan, Michael_McCool
11:31:42 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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11:32:38 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
11:32:43 <kaz> chair: Ege
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11:33:25 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Marketing_WebConf#July_19.2C_2022
11:33:47 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
11:33:48 <McCool> topic: minutes
11:33:56 <McCool> ege: review minutes of 07/12
11:34:11 <kaz> i|rev|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/12-wot-marketing-minutes.html July-12|
11:34:56 <McCool> ... CG questionnaire, issues, CG vs IG labels
11:35:13 <McCool> ... last issue was about Standict, which we decided to defer for now
11:35:28 <kaz> q?
11:35:45 <McCool> ege: any changes?   none, so let's make this official
11:35:54 <McCool> topic: updates
11:36:04 <McCool> subtopic: CG Questionnaire
11:36:13 <McCool> ege: are getting some answers to the form
11:36:47 <McCool> ... about 14 responses, but list is old
11:36:54 <McCool> ... almost starting from scratch
11:37:03 <McCool> ... but we decided to organize a meeting
11:37:26 <McCool> ... created an event with the calendar system; note the correct date is the 25th
11:37:30 <kaz> q+
11:37:46 <McCool> ... has been scheduled to avoid the testfest
11:38:09 <McCool> kaz: want to use the marketing call as a kind of steering cmte for the CG?
11:38:20 <McCool> ege: no, more of a collaboration, just some updates
11:38:50 <McCool> kaz: putting those items on this call is a bit strange
11:39:11 <McCool> q+
11:39:19 <McCool> kaz: this TF call is a prep call for CG
11:39:51 <cris> q+
11:39:54 <McCool> ege: don't want to trigger a dicussion on these issues, but to report on collaboration
11:40:01 <McCool> kaz: should clarify the relationship
11:40:55 <McCool> ege: to decide on what kind of collaboration we should make makke
11:41:09 <Ege> q?
11:41:09 <kaz> q
11:41:11 <kaz> ack k
11:41:19 <McCool> mm: as long as we don't make cg-only decisions in this call I am ok with it
11:41:22 <kaz> ack m
11:41:32 <kaz> ack c
11:41:35 <McCool> ... we do need to spend time sorting out what is in IG and what is in CG
11:41:39 <McCool> ... and we do need updates
11:42:02 <McCool> cris: agree we need updates, but need to filter first
11:42:23 <McCool> mm: agree regular updates are a good thing
11:42:46 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:42:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:42:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
11:43:04 <kaz> q+
11:43:20 <McCool> ege: do we need a resolution on doing CG updates here?
11:43:33 <McCool> mm: I don't think it really needs a resolution
11:43:48 <McCool> kaz: agree, but once CG calls are started need to move CG discussions there
11:44:02 <McCool> ... may need a couple more weeks of preparation
11:44:55 <McCool> mm: we should work on a "launch" for the CG and when the meetings should be started
11:45:04 <McCool> ... mid-August may not be ideal
11:45:30 <McCool> kaz: CG already exists; but if want to wait until TPAC should make an announcement about that
11:46:07 <McCool> mm: also need to think about frequency
11:46:30 <McCool> kaz: suggest separating CG and IG topics in github right away, then move CG topics to a new repo
11:46:49 <McCool> ege: to be clear intention is not to make this a joint CG/IG call
11:47:13 <McCool> kaz: understood, but we do need to decide how to involve CG members
11:47:38 <McCool> ... right now they are just waiting, which is not fair
11:47:54 <McCool> ... already planning to have a charter feedback session, right?
11:47:59 <McCool> ege: yes, that is planned
11:48:35 <McCool> kaz: ok to use this mtg for prep, however
11:48:59 <McCool> kaz: would like to record that Marketing TF would like to support preparation of CG during
11:49:04 <McCool> mm: I agree
11:49:16 <Ege> I agree
11:49:17 <Mizushima> +1 kaz
11:49:17 <McCool> s/CG during/CG during this call/
11:49:20 <cris> +1
11:49:23 <McCool> ege: also agree
11:49:39 <McCool> topic: PRs
11:50:02 <McCool> subtopic: PR 333
11:50:23 <McCool> ege: had issue template that was specific to web site, but not used, so this PR deletes the template
11:50:34 <kaz> i|had issue|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/333 PR 333 - Remove issue template|
11:50:38 <McCool> ege: any objections?  none...
11:50:41 <McCool> ege: (merges)
11:50:54 <McCool> subtopic: issue 126
11:51:13 <McCool> ege: about old explainers, reorganize, convert to HTML
11:51:22 <McCool> ... not currently linked under documentation, however
11:51:39 <McCool> ... so PR #331 is a preliminary update
11:51:46 <dape> q]
11:51:53 <dape> q+
11:52:03 <kaz> ack k
11:52:03 <McCool> mm: so we would eventually put this under "historical documents"?
11:52:05 <McCool> ege: yes
11:52:37 <McCool> daniel: still some todos, should move to new issues
11:52:42 <dape> s/q]/
11:52:56 <kaz> q+
11:53:17 <kaz> ack d
11:53:43 <McCool> mm: do we really need to convert things?  Can't we just link to them?
11:53:57 <McCool> daniel: was not aware we should not remove explainers
11:54:14 <kaz> i|about old ex|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/126 Issue 126 - We should link to the existing explainer about WoT|
11:54:20 <McCool> ... did convert to HTML so it looked like part of the website
11:54:40 <kaz> i|about old ex|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/331 PR 331 - Move Explainer to Marketing repo|
11:54:51 <McCool> ege: possible to make it fit if use jekyll
11:55:45 <kaz> q?
11:55:56 <McCool> mm: other possibility is to move them all to marketing and convert to HTML
11:56:08 <McCool> ... just think we should avoid having duplicates
11:56:20 <McCool> kaz: should be careful about definition of term "explainer"
11:56:45 <McCool> ... from process point of view has a specific meaning, and purpose for wide review
11:57:18 <McCool> ... original explainer for TAG review may be different from ideal summarization document for public
11:58:14 <McCool> mm: so we should consider making a "summarization" document *derived* from the explainer
11:58:41 <McCool> kaz: agree, and better to have that document in HTML
11:59:05 <McCool> ege: ok, put notes under PR 331
11:59:19 <Ege> https://hackmd.io/@egekorkan/json-schema-wot
11:59:26 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:59:32 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:59:36 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:59:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html kaz
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