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14:06:30 <kaz> regrets: Sebastian
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14:07:02 <cris> topic: previous minutes
14:07:10 <kaz> scribenick: cris
14:07:19 <cris> ege: can you update the initials?
14:07:23 <cris> kaz: will do
14:08:10 <cris> ege: now we have the pre-commit hook to render the spec automatically
14:08:30 <cris> ... we also discuss about how to return the payload in a writeproperty
14:08:40 <cris> ... discussion was deferred
14:08:52 <cris> ... same as initial connection
14:09:15 <cris> ... time series and historical data is now a topic of the next charter
14:09:28 <cris> ... operation pairs was deferred too
14:10:06 <cris> ... minor edits in the binding templates
14:10:11 <cris> ... then we finished
14:10:18 <cris> ... I don't see any issue with the minutes
14:10:24 <cris> kaz: name fixed
14:10:29 <cris> ege: they look good
14:10:36 <cris> ... any objection to publish?
14:10:59 <cris> daniel: noticed that Sebastian name is misspelled
14:11:10 <cris> kaz: fixed
14:11:25 <cris> ege: alright minutes approved
14:11:32 <cris> topic: Agenda
14:11:38 <cris> ege: any topic to add?
14:11:49 <cris> ... ok none
14:11:59 <cris> topic: pubblication status
14:12:09 <cris> ege: there is a PR from @kaz
14:12:21 <cris> ... any updates
14:12:26 <cris> kaz: it is already updated
14:12:39 <cris> ... daniel created another PR to remove the extra CR directory
14:13:13 <cris> ege: but the publication is not yet on w3c servers
14:13:21 <cris> kaz: there are some editorial changes to do
14:13:24 <cris> ege: ok thank you
14:13:33 <cris> topic: Pull Requests
14:13:47 <cris> s/topic: Pull Requests//
14:14:15 <cris> daniel: kaz did you integrated the changes for fixing some links and references?
14:14:19 <kaz> i|it is already|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1573 PR 1573 - 4-wd publication draft based on the Editor's draft as of 31 May 2022|
14:15:20 <cris> kaz: please merge daniel PR first
14:15:33 <cris> s/daniel/Daniel's/
14:15:37 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1569 PR 1569 - remove out-dated folder publication/ver11/4-cr
14:15:39 <cris> ege: so it is a minor pr
14:15:51 <cris> ... it is removing 4-cr
14:16:21 <kaz> i/please merge/topic: publication - revisited/
14:16:35 <cris> ... merging any objections?
14:16:40 <cris> ... merged
14:17:51 <cris> ... in 4-wd I'm seeing some errors that should be fixed
14:18:17 <cris> daniel: yes one was alredy fixed by Michael and the other fix is in flight in one of my PRs
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14:18:30 <cris> ege: what about the red border of W3C ?
14:18:56 <cris> kaz: it is just CSS once we move to static css it will be removed
14:19:18 <cris> daniel: I used the respec function to create the static CSS
14:19:55 <cris> ege: ok we can proceed
14:20:35 <kaz> kaz: I'll look into the detail with the static HTML
14:20:41 <cris> topic: Pull Requests
14:20:43 <kaz> i/I'll/scribenick: kaz/
14:20:48 <kaz> scribenick: cris
14:20:51 <cris> subtopic: PR 1574
14:21:06 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:21:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:21:15 <cris> ege: superseed other PRs
14:21:30 <cris> ... any objections to merge it?
14:21:34 <cris> ... ok merged
14:21:58 <cris> subtopic: PR 1568
14:22:20 <cris> ege: approved from w3c team
14:22:34 <cris> ... it specifies better the usage of unicode
14:22:36 <cris> ... any objections?
14:22:40 <cris> ... ok merged
14:22:58 <cris> subtopic: PR 1570
14:23:16 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
14:23:19 <cris> ege: Daniel is fixing those errors that we saw in 4-WD
14:23:33 <cris> ... any objections?
14:23:44 <cris> ... alright merged
14:23:47 <kaz> i|can you update|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/06-wot-td-minutes.html July-6|
14:24:00 <cris> subtopic: PR 1571
14:24:09 <cris> ege: examples had wrong json pointers
14:24:35 <kaz> i/PR from @kaz/subtopic: document check status/
14:24:54 <cris> ... some json schema validators accepted JSONPointers with #
14:25:09 <kaz> s/topic: publication - revisited/subtopic: removing the obsolete 4-cr directory/
14:25:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:25:41 <kaz> s/pubblication/publication/
14:25:55 <cris> ... probably is because of RFC which is not clear
14:26:17 <kaz> i/in 4-wd I'm/subtopic: respec errors/
14:26:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:26:30 <cris> jan: there are implications also for tm:ref
14:26:42 <cris> ... it assumes that you can use #
14:27:16 <cris> ege: but the text on tm:ref was a little bit different
14:28:14 <cris> jan: but my assumption was that you can omit the URI
14:28:35 <cris> ege: it is a little bit inconsistent too
14:29:04 <cris> ... we can fix it by changing the assertion of tm:required
14:30:48 <cris> ... we are somewhat align with json schema
14:31:35 <cris> jan: the approach that json schema uses it seems fine
14:31:54 <cris> ... about the inconsistency I'm not sure it creates some problem
14:31:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:32:01 <cris> ege: it might cause problems in the converter
14:32:20 <cris> jan: it should be an easy check
14:33:11 <cris> ege: I'd open an issue about the inconsistency
14:33:15 <cris> ... later on
14:33:15 <Ege> q?
14:33:21 <cris> ... should we merge it?
14:33:24 <cris> ... merge it
14:34:33 <kaz> i|superseed|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1574 PR 1574 - Update Shacl|
14:34:47 <cris> subtopic: PR 1564
14:34:56 <kaz> s/superseed/supersede/
14:35:30 <kaz> i|approved from w3c|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1568 PR 1568 - refactor: explicitly state unicode code points and give example|
14:35:37 <cris> ege: I tried to explain how to use content type inside a TD
14:35:47 <cris> ... the discussion started in protocol binding templates
14:35:53 <cris> ... I've created a table
14:36:19 <cris> ... it is a little too verbose and probably hard to understad from newcomers
14:36:28 <kaz> i|Daniel is fixing|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1570 PR 1570 - fix: add link to form|
14:36:48 <dape> q+
14:37:04 <kaz> i|examples had|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1571 PR 1571 - fix tm:required example|
14:37:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:37:40 <cris> cris: why don't add examples about the difference cases?
14:37:44 <cris> ege: Will do
14:37:56 <cris> ... I will merge it
14:38:01 <cris> daniel
14:38:07 <cris> s/daniel//
14:38:17 <cris> daniel: what about the matrix idea that you had
14:38:31 <cris> ege: I can do it as an alternative
14:40:04 <cris> subtopic: PR 1575
14:40:19 <cris> ege: the TD Processor contained assertions
14:40:33 <cris> ... with also assertive text forcing to use validation
14:40:50 <cris> ... it was not correct since validation is a optional step in TD
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14:41:13 <cris> subtopic: PR 1576
14:41:21 <cris> ege: I checked our local biblio
14:41:42 <cris> ... there were some problems with the references
14:42:54 <cris> ... architecture ref used the old author list
14:43:04 <cris> ... wot security guidelines
14:43:09 <kaz> i|the TD Processor c|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1575 PR 1575 - Remove assertive language from TD Processor definition|
14:43:15 <cris> ... should it be updated?
14:43:33 <cris> mc: no immediate plans to update it
14:43:41 <kaz> i|I checked our lo|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1576 PR 1576 - Fix local biblio references|
14:43:48 <kaz> q+
14:43:49 <cris> ... can we use github.io ref?
14:43:53 <cris> ack d
14:44:02 <cris> ege: we can't it should be static url
14:44:17 <cris> ... meanwhile I've just updated the date
14:44:26 <cris> mc: you can link to the blob
14:44:40 <cris> ... but it will not be rendered
14:45:03 <cris> ... still I would use the github.io reference
14:46:06 <cris> kaz: regarding updating the security guidelines, do we really have any problems if the reference to that document is not really updated ?
14:46:13 <cris> ege: good point
14:46:36 <cris> kaz: general considerations are contained in wot-security-guidelines
14:46:50 <cris> ... but normative assertions should be inside the TD document
14:46:56 <cris> ege: exactly
14:47:04 <cris> kaz: therefore it is an informative link
14:47:12 <cris> ... not critical
14:47:29 <cris> ege: ok
14:47:35 <cris> ... there were also format issues
14:47:56 <cris> ...any objections ?
14:47:59 <cris> ... ok!
14:48:03 <cris> ... merged
14:48:15 <cris> subtopic: PR 1577
14:48:32 <cris> ege: content-type in tm:extends examples was wrong
14:48:36 <cris> ... the PR fixes this
14:48:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:49:15 <cris> subtopic: PR 1578
14:50:18 <cris> ege: it wasn't clear if TD types apply also to TMs
14:50:39 <cris> ... the PR adds a small text explaining the correct behavior
14:50:45 <cris> topic: issues
14:51:02 <cris> subtopic: issue 1548
14:51:13 <cris> ege: review form Lagally
14:51:18 <cris> ... I've commented
14:51:43 <cris> ... with objections to his points
14:51:57 <cris> ... for example we can use our own media types
14:52:24 <cris> +1
14:52:51 <cris> mc: I should keep an eye on RFC assertions inside tables
14:53:06 <cris> ... it create a sub assertion that it tricky to manage
14:53:19 <cris> ... it is always better to put the assertion out from the table
14:53:35 <cris> ege: we don't say anything about empty forms
14:54:35 <cris> ... we can combine different operations
14:54:48 <cris> ... too late for add the cancelAllActions
14:55:04 <cris> ... events might have empty payloads
14:55:07 <cris> cris:: +1
14:55:33 <cris> ege: regarding versionInfo we should recommend to use semVersioning
14:55:41 <kaz> i|I tried to explain|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1564 PR 1564 - explain contentType usage|
14:55:48 <kaz> q+
14:56:04 <cris> ... if that is the case we should explain what PATCH, MINOR, MAJOR means in TD development
14:57:25 <cris> cris: reading the text it seems that we already recommend it
14:57:38 <kaz> i|content-type|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1577 PR 1577 - fix contentType of TM links|
14:57:46 <cris> kaz: we don't have Michael Lagally here today, I suggest to postpone the discussion for the next time
14:57:50 <cris> ... and invite him
14:59:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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14:59:53 <cris> subtopic: Issue 1400
15:00:22 <cris> ege: we agreed on Thomas points
15:00:38 <cris> ... and it is quite the same in json schema
15:01:11 <cris> ... we decided to not doing anything
15:02:01 <cris> cris: are you sure? I recall some action item
15:02:16 <cris> ege: right, we need to probably discuss about tm:required default value
15:02:21 <cris> ... creating an issue
15:03:51 <cris> ... is there any additional topic about TD?
15:04:03 <cris> mc: yes there is a PR about the new implementation report
15:04:11 <cris> ege: ok before doing that
15:04:18 <cris> subtopic: issue 1294
15:04:49 <cris> ege: form without op in the root level are useless
15:05:01 <cris> ... therefore I create a PR
15:05:08 <cris> ... to add this assertion
15:05:21 <cris> ... it is a normative change, not sure it is ok
15:05:46 <cris> mc: it is adding a new assertion,
15:05:51 <cris> ... it is critical?
15:06:11 <cris> ege: should not break testing
15:06:28 <cris> mc: saying it must be there is an useful validation check
15:06:30 <cris> qè
15:06:33 <Ege> q?
15:06:36 <cris> q+
15:06:42 <kaz> ack k
15:06:45 <cris> mc: not a big deal
15:07:35 <cris> cris: was json schema updated?
15:07:36 <cris> ege: yes
15:07:41 <dape> s/qè/
15:08:26 <kaz> i|it wasn't|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1578 PR 1578 - Add text about tm respecting td information model|
15:09:01 <cris> topic: implementation report
15:09:30 <cris> mc: I've updated node-wot
15:10:00 <cris> ... I fixed a bug with reports of Siemens Logilab
15:10:03 <cris> ... reports
15:10:17 <cris> ... philips-hue stuff is there too
15:11:00 <cris> ... things are pretty good
15:11:14 <cris> ... first three should be moved to manual.csv
15:12:27 <cris> ... bearer tokens are zero
15:12:54 <cris> q+
15:13:03 <cris> ege: did we have it
15:13:10 <cris> ... in the previous version?
15:13:24 <cris> mc: it was an experimental thing
15:14:32 <cris> cris: we are using extensions for bearer tokens in node-wot
15:14:42 <cris> mc: ok
15:15:04 <cris> mc: combo schemes should be higher than 0
15:15:11 <cris> ... probably a validation problem
15:15:14 <cris> ege: right
15:15:39 <kaz> i|I've updated|-> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/cecacbb76daa86924a87d9b773dfc974d95ad0e6/testing/report11.html#automated_validation_results Preview for the Implementation Report|
15:15:39 <cris> mc: device flow might be still at risk
15:15:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:17:11 <cris> mc: contentCoding assertion is about compression
15:17:19 <cris> ... should be easy to implement
15:18:05 <cris> ege: about default Daniel did something
15:18:10 <cris> daniel: yeah
15:19:38 <cris> mc: in field is failling
15:19:53 <cris> ege: maybe nobody used digest
15:20:02 <cris> mc: I did one
15:20:08 <cris> ... node-wot does not support it
15:21:58 <cris> mc: one of
15:22:08 <cris> ... I'm surprised
15:22:12 <cris> ... there might be an error
15:22:17 <cris> ege: right
15:22:59 <cris> ege: regarding cancelaction did you include oracle implementation ?
15:23:01 <cris> mc: let me check
15:23:35 <cris> ... I'll check offline
15:24:33 <cris> ege: don't node-wot support unobserveAll ?
15:24:36 <cris> cris: I think so
15:25:32 <cris> ege: it seems that security is an outliner
15:25:34 <cris> mc: right
15:26:04 <cris> ... other notable mention is schemaDefinitions
15:26:14 <cris> ... it should be defined in all the directories
15:26:45 <cris> ege: about icon size
15:26:54 <cris> ... it easy we can add thingweb logo
15:27:09 <cris> ... daniel can you add it?
15:27:26 <cris> mc: remember that we have the todo.csv
15:27:32 <cris> ... we need to keep it updated
15:28:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:29:05 <cris> ... notice that the assertion id is tm-extend but the vocabulary says tm:extends
15:29:58 <cris> mc: on the manual assertions
15:30:22 <cris> ... a lot of these are pretty easy
15:30:27 <kaz> i|review form Lagally|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1548 Issue 1548 - Oracle review comments on CR draft - Part 1|
15:30:36 <kaz> s/review form/review from/
15:30:57 <cris> ... for example fetching context file it easy to do
15:31:07 <cris> ... but I don't know if any of the implementations does so
15:31:23 <cris> ege: the new ones need another pass
15:31:26 <cris> mc: right
15:32:01 <cris> ... I suggest mergining this now
15:32:05 <cris> ... and do updates later
15:32:09 <cris> ... any objections ?
15:32:29 <kaz> q+
15:32:35 <cris> ack c
15:32:35 <McCool__> scribenick: McCool__
15:33:15 <McCool__> kaz: updated report is good, but we should think about which part of work is handled by TD TF, and which by testing TF
15:33:48 <kaz> ack k
15:34:22 <McCool__> mm: still need to look at testing tools in each deliverable's task
15:34:43 <McCool__> mm: suggest create issues as appropriate in wot-testing repo
15:34:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:35:19 <McCool__> ege: (merged implementation report PR)
15:35:30 <kaz> i|we agreed on Thomas|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1400 Issue 1400 - ThingModels should not define "required" affordances in derived TDs, but "optional" ones|
15:35:31 <McCool__> topic: PR 156
15:35:48 <McCool__> cris: improvements to CoAP binding
15:35:58 <McCool__> ege: also PR 158
15:36:17 <McCool__> ... PR 158 has gotten a lot of feedback and was improved
15:36:27 <McCool__> ... number of small changes
15:36:34 <kaz> i|form without op|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1294 Issue 1294 - Default value section misses op default for Thing|
15:36:46 <cris> s/CoAP/MQTT/
15:37:06 <McCool__> ... Jan and Philipp provided a lot of feedback
15:37:27 <McCool__> ... however, major issue still is normative content in examples
15:37:31 <kaz> i/merged im/kaz: it would be great if we could summarize what we've done so that people can use it as a best practice./
15:37:48 <kaz> i/it would be great/scribenick: kaz/
15:37:55 <kaz> i/merged imp/scribenick: McCool_/
15:37:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:38:13 <McCool__> klaus: if this is the only outstanding problem, propose we merge this PR and create an issue for this specific problem
15:38:53 <McCool__> ege: also, note that we CAN use normative language in these documents, even though it is a NOTE
15:39:33 <McCool__> ... but for CoAP and Content-Format in particular, note that IANA registration is necessary
15:39:47 <McCool__> ... can't just have arbitrary strings, need to use an assigned number
15:40:18 <McCool__> ... also point about default value; what exactly is meant here?
15:40:50 <McCool__> jr: not sure, whether this should have a default value
15:41:10 <McCool__> klaus: if you don't put content type in the form, TD has a default value
15:41:23 <McCool__> ... also request payload and response payload
15:41:43 <kaz> s/topic: PR 156/subtopic: PR 156/
15:41:57 <McCool__> jr: ok, let's resolve the thread
15:42:01 <kaz> i/subtopic: PR 156/topic: Binding Templates/
15:42:21 <McCool__> ege: thanks; will merge 158
15:42:23 <Ege> q?
15:42:33 <kaz> i|improvements to|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/156 PR 156 - Improve the mqtt protocol binding template|
15:42:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:43:00 <McCool__> ege: and related issue was automatically closed
15:43:06 <McCool__> topic: PR 156
15:43:16 <McCool__> ege: four commits
15:43:58 <McCool__> ... look at recent changes
15:44:54 <McCool__> ege: main changes was localbiblio, move refs from abstract to intro
15:45:12 <McCool__> ... uri scheme part in combination with topics
15:47:03 <McCool__> cris: should use topic name, filter, and form
15:47:14 <McCool__> ... and provided an example to explain better
15:47:16 <McCool__> q+
15:47:35 <McCool__> cris: think it is an improvement, can do better in the future
15:47:48 <McCool__> ... also issue with parts generated from ontology
15:48:05 <McCool__> ... EXAMPL 4, complex property
15:49:12 <kaz> i|four commits|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/156 PR 156 - Improve the mqtt protocol binding template|
15:49:38 <McCool__> mm: want to note also that "Web of Things (WoT)" needs to be added to title for all binding documents...
15:49:52 <McCool__> ege: good point, let's make an issue, deal with this in another PR
15:49:54 <kaz> i|also PR 158|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-binding-templates/pull/158 PR 158 - Improve CoAP document|
15:49:55 <Ege> q?
15:50:19 <kaz> s/subtopic: PR 156/subtopic: PR 156 and 158/
15:50:19 <McCool__> ack m
15:50:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:51:43 <McCool__> topic: other issues
15:51:59 <McCool__> ege: note need to fix Koster's affiliation
15:52:09 <McCool__> topic: PR 156
15:52:27 <McCool__> ege: think we are done with this, will merge, create an issue about changing the titles
15:52:48 <McCool__> topic: AOB
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15:53:14 <McCool__> cris: maybe add an issue about references in MQTT bindsing
15:53:21 <McCool__> s/bindsing/binding/
15:53:28 <McCool__> ... in MQTT vocabulary
15:53:47 <McCool__> ... respec does not say anything, but needs to be fixed
15:54:06 <McCool__> ege: will create issue to fix link errors in MQTT binding doc
15:54:18 <McCool__> ... issue 166 created
15:54:23 <kaz> q+
15:54:25 <Ege> q?
15:55:24 <kaz> ack k
15:56:21 <kaz> s/topic: PR 156/@@@tbd@@@/
15:56:53 <kaz> s/topic: PR 156/subtopic: PR 156 - final confirmation/
15:57:04 <kaz> s/final confirmation/revisited/
15:58:14 <kaz> s/topic: other issues/subtopic: Other issues/
15:58:37 <kaz> s/@@@tbd@@@/subtopic: PR 156 - final check and merge/
15:58:49 <kaz> i/AOB/(merged)/
15:58:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:58:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
16:04:29 <kaz> s/topic: AOB/subtopic: AOB/
16:04:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
16:04:41 <kaz> [adjourned]
16:04:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:04:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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