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13:04:36 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testing
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13:11:55 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:12:32 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Jan_Romann, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Philipp_Blum, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:13:34 <citrullin> topic: Minutes
13:14:24 <citrullin> mm: Not sure if the json pointer is solved, but I think Ege is on it.
13:16:30 <citrullin> mm: We should record it somewhere that Ege will not be able to make the plugfest in August.
13:17:13 <citrullin> mm: We discussed if the CG meeting should be a plugfest in August, but Ege will not be there.
13:17:50 <citrullin> mm: Any objections publishing it? No objections. Publish.
13:18:02 <citrullin> topic: Plugest logistics
13:18:32 <citrullin> mm: Any objections to make the July one to a pure testfest? No objections.
13:19:08 <citrullin> mm: The August one is going to be a plugfest.
13:20:01 <citrullin> mm: We should confirm the time and dates. At this point we have to. Any objections confirming them? No objections.
13:21:29 <citrullin> ml: 2am is not a time anyone in Japan would like to work.
13:22:20 <citrullin> mm: That's true. Kaz, do we want to move this time? We can't have a early meeting, since it conflicts with architecture.
13:22:30 <citrullin> ml: Wendsday is conflicting with profiles.
13:22:53 <citrullin> mm: Let's call it tentive again and ask people for conflicts.
13:23:43 <citrullin> kaz: Earlier would be possible, but this is 10pm in Japan. Not impossible.
13:24:10 <citrullin> (Some discussions about the timeslot details)
13:25:01 <kaz> i|Not sure if the json|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/06-wot-pf-minutes.html July-6|
13:25:32 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:25:32 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Ege_Korkan, Jan_Romann, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Philipp_Blum, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:25:55 <kaz> present+ Fady_Salama, Ryuichi_Matsukura
13:27:14 <citrullin> s/tentive/tentative/
13:28:32 <citrullin> mm: Next thing we should do is organizing it.
13:28:54 <citrullin> s/Plugest logistics/July testfest logistics/
13:31:16 <citrullin> July 2022 Testfest -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.07.Online
13:32:15 <citrullin> mm: Let's get the timing for the July testfest and we just use the same times for the Plugfest.
13:32:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:32:28 <citrullin> topic: Implementation reports
13:32:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft miutes
13:32:29 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft miutes', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:32:35 <citrullin> mm: I haven't gotten to this part yet.
13:33:50 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/360
13:34:05 <citrullin> ege: There is something about the schema. Something with the validator tool. I don't see what is really happening there.
13:34:33 <citrullin> s/https/Uncounted data schema terms -> https/
13:35:11 <citrullin> mm: We want to know if some assertion fails for a specific file. That is not given yet.
13:35:56 <citrullin> (Some discussion about the details of failures, how to report them back etc.)
13:37:08 <citrullin> mm: Failures are not too bad in comparison to gaps in the validations.
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13:37:59 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/360
13:38:46 <citrullin> ege: When you validate it on the playground it shows it as implemented.
13:42:53 <citrullin> mm testing the behaviour
13:43:58 <kaz> q+
13:45:05 <citrullin> pb: I would like to know how we organize the demo on the TPAC. Should we move it into the CG?
13:45:26 <citrullin> mm: We have to find a timeslot as well.
13:46:43 <citrullin> kaz: We can create a md file in the github events and collect ideas/projects.
13:47:28 <citrullin> mm: Problem is just it's not really testing or plugfest. We could create a wiki entry or on github under marketing.
13:47:44 <citrullin> pb: I think kaz is right here and github is the better place. So, marketing I guess.
13:48:24 <citrullin> kaz: What is the difference between plugfest and demo?
13:48:36 <citrullin> mm: Demos are more polished, and not as experimental.
13:48:51 <citrullin> kaz: We have shown demos on the plugfest as well.
13:49:00 <citrullin> mm: Not always.
13:49:24 <citrullin> kaz: My only concern is. Do we want to discuss this on the marketing call or plugfest call?
13:49:35 <citrullin> mm: Let me create an issue for this.
13:50:07 <kaz> s/call?/call? If so, that would be complicated./
13:51:51 <citrullin> mm: I was thinking about having 4 demos, 15 minutes each. We can record them, for the remote participants.
13:54:59 <citrullin> ege: I could show a demo or the sorting line.
13:56:19 <kaz> q+
13:57:09 <citrullin> mm: Who should request the slot? Me and Kaz can discuss this.
13:57:52 <citrullin> kaz: Interoperability is the more important here. It would be nicer to have an interoperability use-case.
13:58:17 <citrullin> +1 on this from me.
13:59:49 <citrullin> mm: I think we should start and find opportunities to conenct it.
14:02:59 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:03:03 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:03:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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