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12:02:53 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:03:17 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Takashi_Ogura
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12:05:40 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster, Tetsushi_Matsuda
12:05:45 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian
12:06:27 <dape> scribe: dape
12:06:59 <dape> TOPIC: Minutes
12:07:06 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:07:16 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/06-wot-minutes.html July-6
12:07:17 <dape> -> June-6 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/06-wot-minutes.html
12:07:33 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:07:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:07:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:07:53 <dape> <McCool walking over the minutes>
12:09:30 <dape> MMC: remove "proposals" paras for resolutions
12:09:36 <dape> ... any objections?
12:09:43 <dape> Kaz: remove "proposals" paras
12:09:46 <kaz> s|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/07/06-wot-minutes.html July-6||
12:09:56 <dape> MMC: Looks good, we can publish
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12:10:07 <dape> TOPIC: Quick updates
12:10:17 <dape> MMC: Charter review concluded
12:10:24 <dape> ... pretty much done.
12:10:41 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Cancellations and updates
12:10:51 <dape> MMC:What about the schedule for August?
12:11:02 <kaz> i/Charter review/subtopic: WG Charter extension/
12:11:20 <dape> ... meetings cancelled during Plugfest, except main call
12:11:48 <dape> MMC: w.r.t. August
12:12:26 <dape> ... Pre-TPAC PF, Aug 29 - Sept 2
12:12:51 <dape> ... cancel all calls, except main call?
12:13:02 <dape> ML: Suggest to keep Arch&Profile
12:13:18 <dape> ... I am vacation before that and I would like to make progress
12:13:32 <dape> s/I am vacation/I am on vacation
12:13:40 <kaz> q+
12:14:17 <kaz> ack k
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12:14:30 <dape> Kaz: should check with people taking vacation in August
12:14:45 <dape> MMC: I won't be on vacation before September
12:15:03 <dape> ... suggest that people send email privately
12:15:06 <kaz> i|What about the|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellation and Schedule|
12:16:03 <dape> MMC: btw, testfest in 2 weeks, get prepared
12:16:09 <dape> TOPIC: TPAC 2022
12:16:17 <dape> MMC: Registration is open
12:16:25 <dape> ... planned 4 hours
12:16:38 <dape> ... planned joint calls
12:16:53 <dape> ... Spatial Data on the Web is not at TPAC in person
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12:17:41 <dape> ... I reached out to DID
12:17:50 <dape> ... for example important to Profile
12:18:01 <dape> ... Sebastian reached out to JSON-LD
12:18:08 <dape> Kaz: Talked with Automotive
12:18:15 <dape> ... did not get response yet
12:18:22 <dape> ... they will not meet at TPAC
12:18:45 <dape> ... need to talk about similar groups.. not meeting at TPAC
12:19:24 <dape> MMC: w.r.t. registration
12:19:30 <kaz> q+
12:19:41 <dape> ... early bird is limited to first 4 persons
12:20:11 <dape> Ege: Can I upgrade "remote" to "in-person" ?
12:20:21 <dape> Kaz: Suggest to talk with event team
12:21:08 <dape> MMC: Should work on wiki page
12:21:15 <dape> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022#Attendance
12:22:11 <dape> ... I believe Jan is there in person. Need to check with him
12:22:18 <dape> ... wants to do demo
12:22:59 <dape> MMC: For TPAC task-forces should try to collect topics
12:23:17 <dape> ... I started this work for security and discovery already
12:23:39 <dape> ... I mean topics for *new* charter
12:24:18 <dape> ... maybe using Github labels like "2.0"
12:24:44 <kaz> q+
12:25:41 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022#Proposed proposed breakout on "SDO collaboration on Web-based Digital Twin services"
12:26:24 <dape> Kaz: I plan separate break out session
12:26:59 <dape> ... will talk about potential gaps between IoT and smart cities
12:27:13 <dape> MMC: related: Web and Network
12:27:32 <dape> ... I am working on Edge computing proposal
12:27:40 <dape> ... using WoT discovery
12:27:50 <dape> ack kaz
12:28:48 <dape> TOPIC: Publications
12:29:00 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Wide Review
12:29:10 <dape> MMC: Did not get anything essential
12:29:31 <dape> ... let's wait
12:29:52 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Status update on Thing Description 1.1 draft publication
12:30:09 <dape> Kaz: I have been checking draft
12:30:21 <dape> ... some minor things to fix
12:30:34 <dape> ... maybe we can publish today.. or tomorrow
12:30:54 <dape> Ege: I will be chairing the TD call today. Sebastian has a conflict
12:30:59 <kaz> s/minor things/minor errors/
12:31:26 <dape> DP: CR for TD in a month?
12:31:35 <dape> Kaz: Depends on TestFest..
12:31:47 <kaz> q+
12:32:10 <dape> MMC: TD dates for publication are out of sync
12:32:38 <dape> ... we need "at risk items" to be solved before going to CR
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12:33:22 <dape> Kaz: should check feasibility w.r.t. schedule
12:35:16 <dape> <McCool updating schedule>
12:35:22 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md
12:37:51 <dape> MMC: suggest that in TD call we also discuss the schedule changes
12:37:54 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1027
12:38:08 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Discovery WD Update
12:38:12 <dape> MMC: Draft has been updated
12:38:19 <dape> ... some recent changes
12:38:48 <dape> ... agreed adding privacy considerations
12:38:51 <dape> .... some clean-up
12:39:14 <dape> ... a new thing was the JSON schema ... for enriched TDs
12:39:30 <dape> ... added in appendix
12:40:53 <dape> ... need a new resolution to publish WD for discovery
12:41:01 <dape> ... any objections?
12:42:07 <McCool__> proposal: proceed with publishing a WD update for the WoT Discovery document based on the current version of https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/publication/3-wd/Overview.html, including the updates to the validation section at #exploration-directory-api-things-validation
12:42:36 <McCool__> proposal: proceed with publishing a WD update for the WoT Discovery document based on the current version of https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/publication/3-wd/Overview.html, including the updates to the validation section at https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/publication/3-wd/Overview.html#exploration-directory-api-things-validation and Appendix A
12:43:02 <McCool__> resolution: proceed with publishing a WD update for the WoT Discovery document based on the current version of https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/publication/3-wd/Overview.html, including the updates to the validation section at https://w3c.github.io/wot-discovery/publication/3-wd/Overview.html#exploration-directory-api-things-validation and Appendix A
12:43:26 <dape> MMC: Kaz works on publication already
12:43:30 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Architecture WD Update
12:43:44 <dape> MMC: Draft, https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/architecture-1.1-pre-cr-wd
12:43:55 <dape> ... I hope we can clean it up tomorrow
12:43:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:44:06 <dape> ... we have already a resolution to publish
12:44:27 <dape> ML: I was re-working editorial things
12:44:44 <dape> ... encourage everybody to look into existing merge requests
12:44:57 <kaz> s/Kaz works on publication already/Kaz is already working on TD and will work on Discovery next./
12:44:58 <dape> MMC: Suggest to label those PRs
12:45:21 <dape> ... kind of a summary
12:45:32 <dape> ML: Most are editorial
12:45:45 <dape> ... let's discuss details in tomorrows call
12:46:28 <dape> SUBTOPIC: PROGRESS CHECK
12:46:41 <dape> MMC: More work to clean-up at risk things
12:47:01 <dape> ... took out CSS for at-risk in discovery
12:47:11 <dape> ... suggest to do the same for other publications
12:47:17 <dape> TOPIC: Testing
12:47:26 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Next Testfest in July on July 25-29
12:47:31 <dape> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.07.Online
12:47:50 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Implementation Reports
12:47:50 <mlagally_> q+
12:47:56 <kaz> ack k
12:48:33 <dape> MMC: suggest to point to GitHub ... since we can update the report
12:48:42 <dape> .. for CR we might need a static version
12:49:18 <dape> ML: Question on times for TestFest
12:49:25 <dape> ... what is the duration?
12:49:30 <dape> MMC: 1 hour
12:49:45 <dape> ... just for synchronization
12:50:23 <kaz> q+
12:50:36 <dape> ack mlagally_
12:50:56 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2022JulSep/0012.html PLH's message about TPAC hybrid training
12:51:18 <dape> Kaz: Suggest to add link about hybrid training on wiki
12:51:34 <dape> MMC: We need to check whether there is a conflict
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12:51:50 <kaz> July 26, 13UTC and 20UTC
12:52:14 <dape> MMC: I guess chairs (and maybe editors?) should do the training
12:52:24 <dape> TOPIC: Review Liaisons
12:52:30 <dape> SUBTOPIC: OPC-UA
12:52:57 <dape> MMC: We have issue and PR to gather requirements
12:53:20 <dape> ... another round of feedback might be useful for PR to be merged
12:53:39 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/1016
12:53:48 <dape> ... issue can be central place to organize
12:53:52 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1020
12:54:00 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/liaisons/opcf
12:54:38 <kaz> s/issue and/GitHub Issue and/
12:55:26 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Other Liasons
12:55:44 <dape> Kaz: IEC CDD, meeting coming up soon
12:56:08 <dape> MMC: OCG, SDW meeting on July 21
12:56:26 <dape> s/OCG/OGC
12:56:38 <kaz> s/soon/soon on July 22/
12:57:03 <dape> MMC: Microsoft DTDL
12:57:11 <dape> ... meeting July 19
12:57:25 <dape> ... will update calendar invite
12:57:54 <dape> ... if you are interested, please read documentation provided by Microsoft
12:58:35 <dape> MMC: IEEE P2874
12:58:48 <dape> ... try to join another meeting
12:59:05 <dape> ... look into "time series databases"
12:59:28 <dape> TOPIC: Review Collaborations
12:59:36 <dape> SUBTOPIC: WoT CG
12:59:53 <dape> MMC: Charter available at https://github.com/w3c/charter-drafts/pull/392
13:00:09 <dape> Ege: 1 month review period
13:00:39 <dape> ... will send email to WG/IG and clarify dates
13:00:58 <dape> TOPIC: TF Reports
13:01:18 <dape> SUBTOPIC: Profile
13:01:24 <dape> ... reviewed schedule
13:01:35 <dape> ... plan to have significant testing
13:02:15 <dape> ... 1 aspect of importance, add profile tag
13:02:34 <dape> MMC: Suggest to talk about this in testing call
13:03:45 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:03:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:03:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:04:51 <kaz> chair: McCoo
13:05:01 <kaz> chair- McCoo
13:05:05 <kaz> chair+ McCool
13:05:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:05:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
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