12:37:49 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:37:49 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-rqtf-irc 12:37:51 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:37:51 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:37:53 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:37:53 Date: 13 July 2022 12:38:04 chair: jasonjgw 12:38:07 present+ 12:38:10 scribe+ jasonjgw 12:39:50 agenda+ Draft W3C Accessibility Maturity Model. 12:39:50 agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools. 12:39:50 agenda+ Reporting API use cases. 12:39:50 agenda+ Proposed W3C Workshop on Immersive Worlds on the Web. 12:39:50 agenda+ First Public Working Draft of Ethical Principles for web Machine Learning. 12:39:53 agenda+ Miscellaneous topics. 12:40:05 agenda? 12:54:12 janina has joined #rqtf 12:54:31 agenda? 13:00:31 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:00:43 present+ 13:02:21 Roy has joined #rqtf 13:05:04 scribe+ 13:05:29 zakim, next item 13:05:29 agendum 1 -- Draft W3C Accessibility Maturity Model. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:06:29 jasonjgw: This began within Silver, then transitioned to APA as a subgroup under the RQTF 13:07:58 scott_h has joined #rqtf 13:08:13 https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/ 13:08:24 scott_h 13:08:28 present+ 13:09:51 zakim, next item 13:09:51 agendum 2 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:10:50 jasonjgw: In a very early stage; no comments have been delivered 13:13:02 jasonjgw: Will come back to this on another meeting 13:13:12 zakim, next item 13:13:12 agendum 3 -- Reporting API use cases. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:13:43 jasonjgw: Decided to bring this back for today's meeting 13:13:45 q+ 13:14:24 jasonjgw: Wiki page is up 13:15:22 zakim, take up item 1 13:15:22 agendum 1 -- Draft W3C Accessibility Maturity Model. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:16:36 Sheri_B-H has joined #rqtf 13:16:42 present+ 13:17:37 Sheri_B-H: Have been working on this for about a year 13:18:21 Sheri_B-H: Wanted this to be an independent model that would be flexible to apply across industries 13:18:33 kline has joined #rqtf 13:19:04 Sheri_B-H: We used "dimensions" which looks at all sorts of elements like training, procurement, etc. 13:19:17 present+ 13:19:54 Sheri_B-H: Have created some automated scoring sheets to start out 13:20:29 Sheri_B-H: Questions? 13:21:20 janina: The migration has moved from Googledocs to GitHub 13:22:30 Sheri_B-H: We would like to get some early feedback now before more progress continues 13:22:57 jasonjgw: It looks nearly ready as a first public working draft 13:23:20 q? 13:23:38 jasonjgw: It seem very close to publication; are there other issues which will prevent publication 13:24:14 Sheri_B-H: No...don't think there are any big issues 13:24:38 Sheri_B-H: We would like to add use-case studies after FPWD 13:24:52 ack mi 13:25:25 jasonjgw: What about messaging? 13:25:39 Sheri_B-H: Have begun to work on that 13:26:24 jasonjgw: Looking at fixing validity errors; a few other editorial items were noted 13:26:48 jasonjgw: Anyone else have concerns or issues? 13:27:24 scott_h: I looked at it and it looks like an excellent document 13:27:30 q? 13:28:12 q+ 13:28:41 q? 13:28:50 ack mi 13:29:34 JPaton has joined #rqtf 13:29:47 MichaelC: Looking at this now...it might be helpful to move the key terms later in the document 13:30:22 Sheri_B-H: This was a deliberate step based on COGA needs 13:30:57 MichaelC: Would suggest linking to these terms early on in the document as a compromise 13:33:03 kline: One of the key elements needs to be a mechanism to get to the spreadsheet 13:33:32 jasonjgw: Should be a resource link from the document to send people there 13:33:34 q? 13:34:18 kline: Wants to be sure the spreadsheet is just as available as the document itself 13:35:12 Sheri_B-H: The spreadsheet is in Google; so we'll need to look at getting that onto the W3C website 13:35:22 q+ 13:36:09 janina: We have had problems before with Google doc materials with other groups 13:36:52 MichaelC: Typically, these sorts of materials have been made downloadable files 13:37:25 Sheri_B-H: CSV file format probably won't carry over the formulas 13:38:05 MichaelC: Perhaps leave the Google version now before switching to a longer-term format 13:38:31 jasonjgw: Creating as HTML with JavaScript might be the best option 13:39:31 q+ 13:39:32 Sheri_B-H: That may work; we only used Google sheets to start because of familiarity and ease of working with 13:39:44 q? 13:41:00 ack me 13:41:01 ack mi 13:41:10 ack kline 13:41:39 queue+ 13:41:51 kline: Whatever the final format may be, we just need to ensure the user can use this tool in such a way to keep their data provate 13:42:06 q+ 13:42:46 kline: It needs to be confidential to the end user 13:43:27 jasonjgw: That is why we need to have this not running in such a way that the data gets loaded to a server 13:43:40 jasonjgw: Client-side HTM should work 13:44:19 jasonjgw: The ancillary resources are not a primary issue for the FPWD 13:44:32 jasonjgw: Other issues? 13:45:15 janina: We can add editor's notes about the interim state of the spreadsheet technology 13:45:40 ack ja 13:45:44 ack sh 13:45:44 janina: That may forestall such concers 13:46:06 janina: That sounds like a good fix for now 13:47:43 jasonjgw: Let's have the subgroup fix the few issues, once they have a consensus it is ready to go, then RQTF can look at it as well 13:50:17 zakim, take up item 4 13:50:17 agendum 4 -- Proposed W3C Workshop on Immersive Worlds on the Web. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:51:05 jasonjgw: There is an open issue for reviewing the call for workshop 13:51:51 jasonjgw: Looking at interoperability of immersive environments 13:52:38 janina: Not sure when comments and or proposals are due, we need to look into that 13:54:22 jasonjgw: The accessibility aspect seems to be included, but was more about interoperability and portability of virtual objects 13:55:26 jasonjgw: There do seem to be some distant new dimensions to accessibility, but wondering what others think? 13:55:47 q? 13:55:55 jasonjgw: Comments on the proposal?? 13:56:27 janina: Maybe take another week or so? 13:56:41 scott_h: I can look at this for next week 13:57:09 zakim, next item 13:57:09 agendum 3 -- Reporting API use cases. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:57:25 zakim, take up item 6 13:57:25 agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:57:32 zakim, take up item 5 13:57:32 agendum 5 -- First Public Working Draft of Ethical Principles for web Machine Learning. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:58:11 jasonjgw: Let's move that one to next week as well 13:58:37 zakim, bye 13:58:37 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, SteveNoble, scott_h, Sheri_B-H, kline 13:58:37 Zakim has left #rqtf 13:58:45 jasonjgw: Scott will take care of next week's meeting due to my absence 13:58:49 rrsagent, make minutes 13:58:49 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw 14:07:33 MichaelC has joined #rqtf