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15:00:18 <zheng_xu_> zakim, prepare meeting
15:00:18 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:00:19 <Zakim> Meeting: Publishing Community Group
15:00:31 <zheng_xu_> zakim, start meeting
15:00:31 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:00:32 <Zakim> Meeting: Publishing Community Group
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15:04:13 <zheng_xu_> scribe+
15:04:31 <AvneeshSingh> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lh0TwYHg574WFvdIAB1-Pns3fF7oSCjD/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=110044170227731414177&rtpof=true&sd=true
15:04:32 <zheng_xu_> AvneeshSingh: we are a bit slowing down because of summer holidays
15:04:37 <Bill_Kasdorf_> Bill_Kasdorf_ has joined #publishingcg
15:04:51 <zheng_xu_> ... we had progress regarding MARK
15:05:09 <Bill_Kasdorf_> q+
15:05:31 <AvneeshSingh> https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/issues/2116
15:05:33 <zheng_xu_> ... some review request will be sent out early Aug including both publishing and library community
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15:06:15 <zheng_xu_> ... 3rd important piece is a11y summary guidelines
15:06:19 <AvneeshSingh> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/drafts/schema-a11y-summary/
15:07:01 <zheng_xu_> ... GeorgeK and Charles are still discussing about this document, might change later on
15:07:18 <wolfgang> ack Bill
15:08:26 <GeorgeK> q+
15:08:57 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: there is a very rich metadata header (JATS?) used by publishers, they are also starting working on a11y support
15:08:58 <tzviya>  /me JATS
15:10:04 <zheng_xu_> ... about JATS, it's very interesting that the metadata is embedded into assets of articles
15:11:08 <tzviya> q+
15:11:10 <zheng_xu_> ... first meeting in the iso group is this Friday
15:11:25 <zheng_xu_> ... at 10 AM EDT
15:11:52 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:12:24 <wolfgang> ack George
15:12:57 <zheng_xu_> GeorgeK: Having right metadata in JATS as crosswalk is super important
15:14:31 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: just notes, the group is developing best practice on JATS
15:15:10 <zheng_xu_> ... will share links later
15:15:53 <zheng_xu_> Note: JATS: https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/
15:16:15 <zheng_xu_> wolfgang: next agenda item, update on education use case
15:16:52 <tzviya> q-
15:17:06 <zheng_xu_> Paul: not much update yet, went through github template of creating usecases. Having difficulty of recruiting crew members yet
15:17:18 <Bill_Kasdorf_> q+
15:17:23 <zheng_xu_> ... if any suggestion on forming a group?
15:17:30 <zheng_xu_> q?
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15:18:40 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: I can help with the subgroup
15:18:58 <wolfgang> ack George
15:19:37 <wolfgang> q?
15:19:45 <zheng_xu_> GeorgeK: I am working on high education a11y. We also have been trying to connect to K12 group
15:19:48 <Bill_Kasdorf_> q+
15:19:59 <zheng_xu_> ... getting use cased from K12 community would be really good
15:20:30 <zheng_xu_> ... We can have a call after this meeting
15:20:47 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:21:37 <zheng_xu_> ... all the members in CG are listed in here https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/publishingcg/participants
15:22:03 <zheng_xu_> ... can also start from there
15:22:26 <wolfgang> ack Gautier
15:23:00 <GeorgeK> q+
15:23:06 <zheng_xu_> Gautier: I am interested in education and can help with the task force
15:23:39 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:23:54 <wolfgang> ack Bill
15:24:18 <GeorgeK> q?
15:24:24 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: one aspect is epub but it's more on web rather than just epub
15:24:25 <AvneeshSingh> +1 Bill, it should not be over focused on EPUB
15:24:37 <zheng_xu_> q?
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15:25:04 <wolfgang> ack George
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15:26:08 <zheng_xu_> GeorgeK: The program running in Benetech might be a good place to recruit
15:26:28 <CharlesL> q+
15:26:38 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:26:39 <wolfgang> ack pbelfanti
15:27:40 <zheng_xu_> pbelfanti: might also need some editorial side of members
15:28:55 <zheng_xu_> q?
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15:29:15 <wolfgang> ack tzviya
15:29:15 <Naomi> present+
15:30:09 <zheng_xu_> tzviya: also need to be aware of scope of w3c, can start with writing use case from small problem
15:31:11 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:31:51 <wolfgang> ack CharlesL
15:32:46 <wolfgang> q?
15:33:02 <zheng_xu_> CharlesL: I can send out to the group in Benetech to see if could collect some use cases
15:34:39 <zheng_xu_> wolfgang: next agenda item is future focus on publishing community group
15:34:49 <zheng_xu_> q?
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15:35:47 <wolfgang> ack tzviya
15:35:51 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:37:31 <zheng_xu_> tzviya: the epub working group is trying to looking for what problems and what's going wrong about epub. Give us problems then we can start experiment
15:38:14 <zheng_xu_> ... we are preparing a publishing salon
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15:40:14 <zheng_xu_> GeorgeK: I think we might want to expand the definition of publishing
15:40:22 <wolfgang> q?
15:40:32 <wolfgang> ack George
15:40:35 <zheng_xu_> ... we have been promoting professionals to moving away from pdf and move to epub
15:41:08 <zheng_xu_> ... most thing we found problem in pdf is a11y
15:41:50 <wolfgang> ack Bill
15:41:57 <zheng_xu_> ... as well as AI and a11y reading system, plenty things to talk about
15:43:13 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: We need some dialog between biz and tech group to ask deeply about what is the problem
15:43:56 <wolfgang> ack Zheng
15:44:06 <wolfgang> q?
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15:47:30 <wolfgang> ack Bill
15:47:37 <pbelfanti> Apologies, I need to drop
15:47:37 <zheng_xu_> q?
15:48:25 <wolfgang> @pbelfanti: thanks for joining us! Have a nice afternoon!
15:48:32 <zheng_xu_> Bill_Kasdorf_: one benefit we can see is connection with W3C
15:48:53 <zheng_xu_> ... the other is documentation, output can be tracked in community group
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15:50:07 <wolfgang> ack zheng
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15:51:59 <wolfgang> ack Avneesh
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16:01:16 <zheng_xu_> zakim, end meeting
16:01:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been GeorgeK, AvneeshSingh, zheng_xu_, wolfgang, tzviya, Gautier, CharlesL, Naomi
16:01:19 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes v2
16:01:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/13-publishingcg-minutes.html Zakim
16:01:22 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, zheng_xu_; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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