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14:28:33 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), dmontalvo
14:29:17 <dmontalvo> Meeting: WAI Curricula Task Force Teleconference
14:29:34 <dmontalvo> agenda+ Setting up meeting, choosing scribe
14:52:28 <dmontalvo> agenda+ Changing order of modules/ First "Structure", then "Clear Content"
14:53:16 <dmontalvo> agenda+ Moving topic "Titles and Link Text" from "Clear Content" to 'Structure" https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/544
14:54:14 <dmontalvo> agenda+ LOs about ensuring alternatives are available https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/574
14:55:27 <dmontalvo> agenda+ Authoring tools knowledge https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/592#issuecomment-1173597028
14:58:55 <dmontalvo> zakim, agenda?
14:58:55 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
14:58:56 <Zakim> 1. Setting up meeting, choosing scribe [from dmontalvo]
14:58:56 <Zakim> 2. Changing order of modules/ First "Structure", then "Clear Content" [from dmontalvo]
14:58:56 <Zakim> 3. Moving topic "Titles and Link Text" from "Clear Content" to 'Structure" https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/544 [from dmontalvo]
14:58:57 <Zakim> 4. LOs about ensuring alternatives are available https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/574 [from dmontalvo]
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14:58:59 <Zakim> 5. Authoring tools knowledge https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/592#issuecomment-1173597028 [from dmontalvo]
14:59:37 <dmontalvo> zakim, agenda order is 1, 5, 4, 2, 3
14:59:37 <Zakim> ok, dmontalvo
15:01:08 <dmontalvo> zakim, agenda?
15:01:08 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
15:01:09 <Zakim> 1. Setting up meeting, choosing scribe [from dmontalvo]
15:01:09 <Zakim> 5. Authoring tools knowledge https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/592#issuecomment-1173597028 [from dmontalvo]
15:01:09 <Zakim> 4. LOs about ensuring alternatives are available https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/574 [from dmontalvo]
15:01:10 <Zakim> 2. Changing order of modules/ First "Structure", then "Clear Content" [from dmontalvo]
15:01:11 <Zakim> 3. Moving topic "Titles and Link Text" from "Clear Content" to 'Structure" https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/544 [from dmontalvo]
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15:05:03 <CarlosD> present+
15:05:23 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:05:23 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Setting up meeting, choosing scribe -- taken up [from dmontalvo]
15:05:31 <GN> present+
15:05:44 <Howard> Howard has joined #wai-curricula
15:06:18 <Howard> scribe: Howard
15:06:21 <Howard> present+ Howard
15:06:52 <dmontalvo> Ttopic: Updates on progess
15:07:13 <CarlosD> s/Ttopic/Topic
15:08:43 <dmontalvo> https://content-author-modules--wai-curricula.netlify.app/curricula/content-author-modules/
15:09:21 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:09:21 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Authoring tools knowledge https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/592#issuecomment-1173597028 -- taken up [from dmontalvo]
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15:10:35 <Howard> Daniel: Kevin - no link for resources for knowing authoring tools accessibility. Is it reasonable to expect this of instructors.
15:11:28 <Howard> ... Could point to ATAG overview page. Kevin seems okay with this.
15:12:30 <Howard> zakim
15:12:45 <BrianE> present+
15:13:27 <Howard> Gerhard: shouldn't require knowledge of accessible authoring tools from students.
15:13:43 <Howard> Daniel: will only require this of instructors.
15:15:50 <Howard> Carlos: fully agree as having this as competence for instructors. Not sure following why authoring tool resource should be part of teaching resources.
15:16:35 <Howard> ... never mind - in full agreement with Daniel's proposal.
15:17:35 <Howard> Daniel: should be prior knowledge for instructors.
15:18:52 <Howard> Howard: should we put the link to the resource on a11y authoring tools in context (where it is mentioned)?
15:19:06 <Howard> Daniel: we can provide link to resource in context.
15:19:46 <Howard> ... Will add this resource in the teaching resources section and a link within context (at the bullet point).
15:19:49 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:19:49 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- LOs about ensuring alternatives are available https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/574 -- taken up [from dmontalvo]
15:23:18 <Howard> Daniel: comment from Carlos: questioning use of 'ensure' instead of 'provide.' Probably need something in middle ground.
15:25:27 <Howard> Carlos: not against all uses of 'ensure,' just 2 uses he mentioned in his github issue above.
15:26:53 <Howard> ... more appropriate learning outcome would be student knowing when transcript is needed and how that transcript would be created.
15:28:23 <Howard> Daniel: need a wording more aligned with learning outcomes in other modules.
15:29:56 <Howard> Daniel: will address this change of wording in learning outcomes.
15:30:13 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:30:13 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Changing order of modules/ First "Structure", then "Clear Content" -- taken up [from dmontalvo]
15:31:58 <Howard> Daniel: Sylvie - should we reverse the order 'clear content' and 'structure'?
15:32:26 <Howard> ... i.e. 'structure' would come first.
15:33:04 <Howard> ... Thinking had been that 'clear content' was more under the control of the content author. Therefore,
15:33:19 <Howard> ... makes sense that it comes first. I.e. keep the current order.
15:33:43 <Howard> Brian: agrees with Daniel.
15:35:49 <Howard> +1 to Daniel.
15:36:27 <Howard> Carlos: also agrees with Daniel and keeping 'clear content' first.
15:36:44 <GN> +1 to Daniel
15:37:52 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:37:52 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Moving topic "Titles and Link Text" from "Clear Content" to 'Structure" https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/544 -- taken up [from dmontalvo]
15:40:14 <Howard> Daniel: Michele had asked if 'page titles' should belong under 'structure,' rather than clear content.
15:42:05 <Howard> Daniel: feels this better fits under 'clear content,' because of the audience.
15:42:17 <BrianE> +1 to Daniel
15:42:48 <Howard> Howard: feels better under 'clear content' because it is also semantics, more relevant to content authors. The more we can ...
15:43:15 <Howard> make this a content issue, the more relevant it is for content authors.
15:43:40 <Howard> Daniel: agrees it's best to keep in 'clear content' module.
15:44:05 <Howard> s/Daniel/Carlos
15:44:07 <dmontalvo> zakim, agenda?
15:44:07 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:44:08 <Zakim> 3. Moving topic "Titles and Link Text" from "Clear Content" to 'Structure" https://github.com/w3c/wai-curricula/issues/544 [from dmontalvo]
15:44:18 <dmontalvo> zakim, take up next
15:44:18 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, dmontalvo
15:50:52 <Howard> Daniel: share with team any use of curricula resources.
15:54:38 <dmontalvo> zakim, end meeting
15:54:38 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been CarlosD, GN, Howard, BrianE
15:54:40 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:54:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/07/05-wai-curricula-minutes.html Zakim
15:54:43 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, dmontalvo; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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