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13:21:48 <trackbot> Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
13:21:48 <trackbot> Date: 27 June 2022
13:21:59 <Sharon_> agenda?
13:22:35 <Sharon_> chair: Sharon
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13:57:26 <Sharon> agenda?
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14:02:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:03:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
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14:05:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> RESOLUTION: The group will not meet next week Monday July 4th. Happy holiday to everyone celebrating!
14:05:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:05:21 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- 3.6 edit (see git link) (Janina) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:05:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, previous item
14:05:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'previous item', Lionel_Wolberger
14:05:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item `
14:05:42 <Zakim> '\`' does not match any agenda item, Lionel_Wolberger
14:05:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 1
14:05:45 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Spec content is ready for CR -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:07:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> Janina: WHile editing, one issue was the way "distracting" and "distraction" appear in the spec
14:08:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... And there is a PR against 3.6
14:09:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:09:17 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- 3.6 edit (see git link) (Janina) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:44 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/209 - there is a link in there to the HTML preview, which is http://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/adapt-js2206a/content/index.html#symbol-explanation
14:12:41 <Matthew_Atkinson> Simplifications made in 3.6.1 (description) and 3.6.2 (examples); also two EdNotes have been added in 3.6.1 (description).
14:18:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Sounds like we are all OK to accept this wording.
14:19:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... no objections
14:19:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> RESOLUTION: We agree to merge the PR 209 affecting the text of 3.6
14:20:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:20:25 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Blog post draft ready (Lionel) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:21:51 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:21:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/27-adapt-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:23:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: check to be sure you are in the current, latest version
14:23:38 <Sharon> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts#WAI-Adapt_-_Content_ModuleCandidate_Recommendation_.28CR.29_and_WAI-Adapt_Explainer_.28Update_publishedd
14:25:21 <Sharon> q?
14:25:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: The draft will go in the "Blog WAI-Adapt" slot of this wiki page
14:25:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts#WAI-Adapt_-_Content_ModuleCandidate_Recommendation_.28CR.29_and_WAI-Adapt_Explainer_.28Update_publishedd
14:27:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I will have it up end of this week
14:27:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Better to have it before 0800 Tuesdeay
14:27:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... as the next steps are (a) chairs to review Janina+Matt (b) Michael to review (c) Shawn to review
14:28:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... then a CfC
14:29:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:29:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/27-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:37:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Once we finish document prep, we send the messaging up the chain. That includes approvals and reviews.
14:37:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... that's step 1: complete the messaging
14:38:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... step 2, Adapt logs a resolution that Adapt is ready for APA to announce a CfC to publish as a Candidate Recommendation
14:39:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this establishes a needed audit trail.
14:39:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... given that CfC takes a week
14:39:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we are likely to publish 26th July
14:39:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:39:49 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- CR Announcement is teed up in the WAI wiki (Sharon) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:40:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:40:05 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Lionel_Wolberger
14:40:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
14:40:15 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:40:16 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:40:16 <Zakim> 5. Disambiguate between HTML <rel> and WAI-Adapt specified "purpose/destination/ action."" (Lionel) [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:41:31 <Lisa> q+
14:42:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: In conversation with a very knowledgeable W3C person, the question of <rel was raised
14:42:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/rel
14:42:10 <Sharon> ack Lisa
14:42:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lisa: This did come up near the beginning (this is now years ago)
14:42:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I believe I recall that the scope was the problem
14:43:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... <rel does meet some of the needs here. It works very well in the link of a header, perhaps other links, but not everywhere else
14:43:49 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/rel
14:43:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... <rel tends to give meta-data on the page as a whole
14:43:55 <Matthew_Atkinson> q+
14:44:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Suggest we add this to the explainer
14:44:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lisa: The mozilla doc opens with, "The rel attribute defines the relationship between a linked resource and the current document. Valid on <link>, <a>, <area>, and <form>, the supported values depend on the element on which the attribute is found."
14:45:21 <Sharon> ack Matthew_Atkinson
14:45:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... note [it relates to] "the current document"
14:45:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: You can apply <rel to some elements, but not to buttons
14:45:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the mozilla doc lists  <link>, <a>, <area>, and <form>
14:46:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... not button
14:46:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: What if WHAT-WG says, let's "fix" <rel so it can apply to buttons
14:46:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lisa: There is a temptation with semantics to overload what it actually is
14:46:46 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/between HTML <rel>/between HTML @rel/
14:47:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/<rel/@rel/
14:47:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:47:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/27-adapt-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:47:10 <Sharon> q?
14:47:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... there will also be similar thoughts regarding the ability of RDF to do some of this semantic assignment
14:47:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and we will run into the same issues
14:47:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/<rel/@rel/
14:47:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/<rel/@rel/
14:47:50 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:47:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/27-adapt-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:48:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Lionel to respond with the summary of the above
14:50:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:50:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:50:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/27-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:56:01 <Matthew_Atkinson> I found the three pages in the (GitHub) wiki that reference rel (I searched for '\Wrel\W' so may've missed some)...
14:56:03 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/July-8th-notes-on-Options-for-symbol
14:56:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Options-for-symbol
14:56:16 <Matthew_Atkinson> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/wiki/Symbols---the-big-picture