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14:01:12 <kaz> meeting: WoT-WG - TD-TF
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14:03:56 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Erich_Barnstedt, Sebastian_Kaebisch
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14:05:41 <sebastian> topic: minutes
14:06:42 <sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/15-wot-td-minutes.html
14:07:14 <kaz> i/minutes/scribenick: sebastian/
14:07:21 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:07:29 <kaz> s/html/html June-15/
14:07:56 <sebastian> any objections?
14:07:57 <sebastian> no
14:08:43 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally
14:08:50 <sebastian> topic: PRs
14:09:37 <sebastian> subtopic: #1517
14:09:44 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1517
14:10:04 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:11:05 <sebastian> Kaz: I can continue to work on this version and do the checks
14:11:09 <sebastian> MM: Ok to merge?
14:11:16 <sebastian> yes
14:11:22 <sebastian> PR is merged
14:12:32 <sebastian> subtopic: #1542
14:12:39 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1542
14:13:01 <kaz> s/1517/1517 PR 1517 - Create CR Candidate Working Draft for publication/
14:13:16 <sebastian> MM: TLS can be applied everywhere and not only in BasicSecurityScheme
14:13:31 <kaz> s/do the checks/double-check the draft for publication/
14:13:38 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:14:02 <kaz> s/1542/1542 PR 1542 - Discuss Secure Transport in Security Schemes/
14:14:20 <sebastian> ... I introduce a new section about the TLS usage
14:14:34 <sebastian> MM: any objections?
14:14:42 <sebastian> no
14:14:55 <sebastian> PR is going to be merged
14:15:24 <sebastian> subtopic: #1543
14:15:30 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1543
14:15:58 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:16:25 <kaz> s/1543/1543 PR 1543 - Revise statements about auto SecurityScheme/
14:16:37 <sebastian> MM: previous PR included normative keywords not marked up as assertions
14:17:16 <sebastian> ... PR moves these statement into the auto security scheme
14:17:55 <sebastian> ... we already reviewed it in the Security TF
14:18:03 <sebastian> MM: any objections?
14:18:36 <sebastian> if there is no objections from the Security TF then Im ok with it
14:18:58 <sebastian> decided to merge
14:19:17 <sebastian> <there is a merge conflict, MM will fix it later>
14:20:08 <sebastian> subtopic: PR 1545
14:20:17 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1545
14:20:38 <sebastian> MM: PR moves the TM section to just before Security Considerations
14:21:09 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
14:21:13 <sebastian> ... otherwise there can be the assumption that Security is not valid for TM
14:21:34 <kaz> s/1545/1545 PR 1545 - Move Thing Model section before Considerations sections/
14:22:05 <sebastian> any objections?
14:22:31 <sebastian> no
14:23:32 <sebastian> subtopic: PR 1547 - Improve Privacy Assertions
14:23:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:23:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:24:51 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:26:30 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/353 related PR - wot-discovery PR 353 - Update Privacy Considerations
14:26:59 <kaz> i|353|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1547 PR 1547 - Improve Privacy Assertions|
14:28:37 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:28:39 <kaz> chair: McCool
14:28:42 <sebastian> MM: immutable IDs should ideally be made available via affordances
14:29:05 <kaz> q?
14:32:01 <sebastian> ... TD identifier should be updated when there is a significant change in the situation or when it is reinstated
14:34:20 <kaz> q?
14:34:22 <kaz> q+
14:35:28 <sebastian> MM: shall we merge or shall we add extra time for review
14:35:48 <cris_> q+
14:36:23 <sebastian> Kaz: we can merge and do discussion on the updated version
14:36:37 <kaz> s/merge/merge it/
14:36:38 <sebastian> MM: agree. we already behind schedule
14:36:41 <kaz> ack k
14:36:43 <kaz> ack c
14:37:40 <sebastian> cris: the coressponding issue mention that ID should be more rotated
14:39:23 <sebastian> MM: <shows the parts in the PR which address the mentioned issue>
14:40:50 <sebastian> decided to merge (there is still conflict; MM will fix it later)
14:41:21 <sebastian> subtopic: PR 1549 - Add husky pre-commit for rendering
14:41:28 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1549 PR 1549 - Add husky pre-commit for rendering
14:42:04 <sebastian> Cris: still the IPR check is not completed
14:43:33 <sebastian> ... I will check with Ege what is the problem here
14:45:22 <sebastian> MM: PR can be marked as non-substantive
14:45:37 <sebastian> Kaz: is it editorial?
14:46:10 <sebastian> Cris: PR does not impact the TD content. just setup a script
14:47:48 <sebastian> MM: we not going to merge. Will ask for more reviews
14:48:10 <sebastian> topic: TD Issues
14:48:55 <sebastian> subtopic: Issue 1540 - 2019 URLs showing in namespaces
14:50:19 <kaz> i/TD Issues/kaz: I've also tried to merge it using the Repository Manager but can't. So Cristiano, could you please see if there is any syntax error within the proposed files to make sure?/
14:50:27 <kaz> i/I've also/scribenick: kaz/
14:50:47 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
14:51:27 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1540 Issue 1540 - 2019 URLs showing in namespaces
14:51:47 <kaz> q+
14:52:40 <cris_> q+
14:53:12 <kaz> ack k
14:53:40 <sebastian> Kaz: namespaces are just 'namespaces' and handled as an identifier. Propose to keep the namespaces as is.
14:54:22 <sebastian> Cris: there are different strategies.
14:55:46 <sebastian> MM: porpose not to touche this and revisit this topic again in TD 2.0
14:56:11 <sebastian> Kaz: keeping the URIs will be less confussing
14:57:06 <sebastian> Issue will be closed
14:57:06 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
14:57:36 <kaz> s/confussing/confusing/
14:57:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
14:58:08 <sebastian> subtopic: Issue 1546 - Explicitly allow/mention relative tm:ref imports?
14:59:35 <sebastian> ok
15:00:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1546 Issue 1546 - Explicitly allow/mention relative tm:ref imports?
15:00:08 <kaz> s/ok//
15:00:26 <sebastian> MM: it seems, there is an agreement to allow this
15:01:28 <sebastian> Cris: I'm also ok with it. I will check the PR then
15:02:08 <sebastian> subtopic: Issue 1548 - Oracle review comments on CR draft
15:04:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/1548 Issue 1548 - Oracle review comments on CR draft - Part 1
15:04:51 <sebastian> MM: there is a comment if the TM is stable and if we should remove the editorial note
15:05:19 <sebastian> Mistakte that still there. Should be removed. TM is stable. Is also invovled in the TestFest
15:07:39 <kaz> s/Mistake/... Mistake/
15:08:44 <sebastian> There will be checkboxes included to see the progress which (sub-)issues already addressed
15:09:02 <kaz> s/There/... There/
15:09:27 <sebastian>  Sebastian will implement the checkboxes
15:10:11 <sebastian> ML: there many sentances which should be RFC2119 assertations
15:11:13 <kaz> s/ Sebastian/sk: Sebastian/
15:12:34 <sebastian> s/assertations/assertions
15:14:01 <sebastian> ML: 'Hint' statements are kind of that they can be ignored
15:15:43 <kaz> q+
15:15:49 <kaz> ack c
15:16:57 <sebastian> ack k
15:17:30 <kaz> ack k
15:22:07 <sebastian> adjourne
15:22:35 <kaz> s/adjourne/adjourned/
15:22:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:22:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
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