13:00:43 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 13:00:43 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-pf-irc 13:01:53 Mizushima has joined #wot-pf 13:01:59 cris__ has joined #wot-pf 13:13:15 Fady has joined #wot-pf 13:13:40 topic: Minute Review 13:13:43 present+ Kaz_Ashimur, Michael_McCool, Fady_Salama, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:14:17 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/15-wot-pf-minutes.html June-15 13:14:29 mm: No problem with the mins, we can publish these 13:15:14 topic: Review the Testfest Minutes 13:16:20 chair: McCool 13:16:37 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/06-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 1 13:16:55 approved 13:16:58 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/07-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 2 13:16:58 mm: no problems with day one, we publish 13:17:11 s|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/07-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 2|| 13:17:15 s/approved// 13:17:17 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/07-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 2 13:17:50 mm: no problem with day 2 mins, publishing 13:18:47 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/08-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 3 13:19:42 mm: I see a couple of typos, otherwise good. Publishing after fixing typos 13:19:50 ktoumura has joined #wot-pf 13:20:30 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/09-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 4 13:21:37 mm: Minutes ok, publishing 13:21:56 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/10-wot-pf-minutes.html Day 5 13:27:42 mm: We should specify that we need to consider how to deal with multiple implementations that come from the same organization 13:28:00 kaz: *updates action note* 13:28:24 mm: Other than typos, we can publish 13:28:40 topic: Review PRs 13:29:11 subtopic: PR 354 13:29:52 mm: This is a simple PR that we can simply merge 13:29:58 i|Other than|[[ group to consider how to deal with results from multiple implementations which are based on one specific code base and multiple implementations from one organization (including the results from Ver. 1.0 implementation results)]]| 13:30:08 ... merged 13:30:28 subtopic: PR 355 13:30:57 i|This is a|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/354 PR 354 - Add tinyiot test results to input_2022| 13:31:22 mm: This PR is trying to add missing features, so I will merge it and update todo-list 13:31:34 i|This PR is|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/355 PR 355 - add todos for action titles and scopes| 13:31:40 ... merged 13:32:04 topic: Next Plugfest/Testfest Logistics 13:32:36 mm: I am going to add a new directory for the next Plugfest 13:32:58 ... It should be during July 18-22 13:33:59 ... tentatively same times as last Testfest 13:34:31 mm: *Creates placeholder README.md* 13:34:54 topic: Implementation Reports 13:35:38 mm: I have updated some my tools and done some fixes 13:35:45 q+ 13:36:46 ak k 13:36:50 s/ak k// 13:36:52 ack k 13:37:27 i/topic: Next Testfest (revisited)/ 13:37:44 kaz: I just looked at the calendar and realized at that time many japanese members will not be able to join 13:37:54 i/I just/topic: Next Testfest (revisited)/ 13:38:15 s/many/probably many/ 13:38:34 mm: Can you remember to bring it up next main call? 13:39:04 kaz: Sure, sorry for not noticing earlier 13:39:35 topic: Implementation Reports (revisited) 13:40:32 mm: I just wanted to tell every one that if you want to write something complex in the html of wot thing description, please do it in a div and not in a span 13:41:13 mm: * Generates updated implementation report* 13:43:20 i|Implementation Reports|(Kaz has added that to the main call agenda for June 29.) 13:43:25 rrsagent, make log public 13:43:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:43:31 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 13:43:58 mm: We are making some progress, I didn't finish my own volunteered fixes, but I am done with the tooling so I can do it now 13:44:17 ... we are mostly missing volunteers for tm-assertions 13:45:17 Lagally: I have the feeling that tm is not ready and not well tested. I am afraid that we put something not fully finished in the spec 13:45:44 mm: TM is stable, but we can bring the topic up in the next call 13:46:14 q? 13:46:22 topic: Discovery Implementation Report 13:47:01 mm: There are things that need to be fixed, Farshid is working on that 13:48:22 kaz: I just wanted to remind you that we should merge the updates with the main nbranch on github 13:48:39 s/nbranch/branch/ 13:48:59 mm: TD and Discovery Implementation Report are up to date and merged 13:49:01 s/on github/on github, but let's visit that point again later at the end of this call./ 13:49:37 topic: To Dos 13:50:24 mm: I will go ahead and make placeholders for implementation descriptions and then ask people to fix them if something is wrong. 13:50:51 ... same with testimonials 13:51:08 topic: "Policy" Assertions 13:51:34 mm: Assertions about security assertions are hard to test 13:52:19 ... We assume that they are treated as manual assertions 13:52:45 ... but we need to keep in mind that some of the assertions are not really features but policies of usage 13:53:03 q+ 13:54:23 ack k 13:54:29 kaz: Can we start to ask implementers to start sending their template.csv and manual.csv 13:55:07 s/manual.csv/manual.csv?/ 13:56:09 s/csv?/csv? The point is we should clarify who should do what for the next steps./ 13:56:48 mm: I need to look at what is missing from whom. I will do that offline 13:57:20 [adjourned] 13:57:26 rrsagent, make log public 13:57:38 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:57:38 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:01:32 Zakim has left #wot-pf