15:38:05 RRSAgent has joined #pronunciation 15:38:05 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-pronunciation-irc 15:38:07 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:38:10 Meeting: Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference 15:38:10 Date: 22 June 2022 15:38:16 agenda? 15:38:23 zakim, clear agenda 15:38:23 agenda cleared 15:38:32 Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements 15:38:38 Agenda+ Action Items 15:38:46 Agenda+ Github Issues 15:38:53 Agenda+ Other Business 15:39:46 present+ 15:39:49 Chair: Irfan Ali 15:39:59 regrets, Paul 15:53:05 Alan has joined #pronunciation 15:57:41 janina has joined #pronunciation 16:01:35 Dee has joined #pronunciation 16:02:10 present+ 16:02:21 present+ 16:02:36 present+ 16:03:36 SteveNoble has joined #pronunciation 16:04:02 present+ 16:04:51 Sam has joined #pronunciation 16:04:59 present+ 16:05:38 janina: counter prosposal format could be in wiki, deck or any other format 16:05:58 janina: we can have a joint meeting before the TPAC and talk about out decision or roadmap 16:06:42 janina: we want to have a meeting during july in order to make sure that we are on the same page and then refine this document before TPAC 16:11:47 present mhakkinen 16:12:03 present+ mhakkinen 16:12:27 mhakkinen has joined #pronunciation 16:12:34 present+ 16:17:42 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pronunciation/2022Jun/0003.html 16:19:00 https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/pronunciation/track/actions/38 16:20:33 mhakkinen: this is referenced to the lang attribute. the voice effect is interesting but not supported by ssml. 16:21:03 janina: https://www.w3.org/TR/emotionml/. 16:21:42 janina: expand the statement to provide a lang pack to the implementers 16:23:00 mhakkinen: why do we and out proposed tech approach need to anything more? 16:23:25 janina: we have no way to comprehend all the use cases. 16:23:49 bkardell_ has joined #pronunciation 16:28:02 mhakkinen: without a speech vendor, unless they support a specific lang variants, nothing in our standards can change... 16:28:33 janina: it may be i18n we want to meet at TPAC. we have apple, MS and google and can push the conversation. 16:29:06 mhakkinen: we have voice attr gender and can check what are the additional use-cases that are not been addressed. 16:30:04 mhakkinen: what can we run with the first pass either with the current attribute model approach with apple and google 16:31:19 mhakkinen: as far as the age, that was already covered by the ssml attribute 16:31:51 janina: we have got much what we need but not everything that is missing. 16:33:17 janina: all of our use cases can be met using the ssml. 16:34:52 mhakkinen: emotion examples. amazon added whisper attribute. we may need to have this conversation next week when Paul is back. 16:35:13 janina: perhaps a good idea to invite Debra Dahl to talk about this 16:36:18 mhakkinen: we began capturing ideas about the best practices. 16:36:34 mhakkinen: we have to create a document. 16:37:11 action: janina to coordinate with Roy to create a document for the best practices 16:37:11 Created ACTION-43 - Coordinate with roy to create a document for the best practices [on Janina Sajka - due 2022-06-29]. 16:39:05 mhakkinen: Was at learning impact conf. got a chance to speak with MS in education. Shared information about the task-force . well receptive 16:39:18 mhakkinen: speaking in another conference next week. 16:39:39 mhakkinen: need to keep an eye what other presenters have in their mind. 16:40:06 mhakkinen: met with read speaker compan, talked to them about need of pronunciation. 16:40:14 s/compan/company 16:42:59 rrsagent, make minutes 16:42:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/22-pronunciation-minutes.html iali