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13:32:35 <kaz> meeting: WoT Discovery
13:33:10 <kaz> regrets+ Christian
13:59:58 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool
14:00:01 <kaz> chair: McCool
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14:02:05 <kaz> present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh
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14:02:12 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
14:03:00 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
14:05:10 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#20_June_2022
14:05:30 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
14:05:51 <kaz> topic: Agenda
14:05:56 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#20_June_2022 agenda for today
14:06:00 <kaz> topic: Minutes
14:06:14 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html June-13
14:06:19 <kaz> present+ Andrea_Cimmino
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14:09:07 <kaz> approved
14:09:10 <kaz> topic: PRs
14:09:33 <kaz> mm: cleaned up the Explainer
14:09:49 <kaz> ... also did editorial changes
14:10:06 <kaz> ... Editor's Note around Issue 86
14:10:21 <kaz> ... let's go through them in order
14:10:33 <kaz> subtopic: PR 345
14:10:43 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/345 PR 345 - Explainer Fixes
14:10:52 <kaz> mm: (goes through the changes)
14:11:27 <kaz> ft: (explains his comments)
14:11:40 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/345#issuecomment-1157600668 Farshid's comments
14:11:56 <kaz> ft: this is about the Explainer. right?
14:11:59 <kaz> mm: yes
14:12:50 <kaz> ... (adds edits based on Farshid's comments)
14:13:04 <kaz> ... pagenation and incremental transfer
14:13:37 <kaz> ... is the change ok?
14:13:44 <kaz> ft: ok
14:13:55 <kaz> mm: (applies the updates)
14:14:08 <kaz> ... any objections to merge this PR?
14:14:10 <kaz> (none)
14:14:19 <kaz> merged
14:14:32 <kaz> subtopic: PR 347
14:14:55 <kaz> mm: let's skip 346 and discuss 347
14:15:17 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/347 PR 347 - Get rid of dangling colon in Ontology
14:15:37 <kaz> mm: this is cleaning up the sentences
14:15:41 <kaz> merged
14:16:05 <kaz> subtopic: PR 349
14:16:20 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/349 PR 349 - Not all directories are self-describing
14:16:34 <kaz> mm: not all directories are self-describing
14:16:35 <kaz> ... any objections?
14:16:41 <kaz> (none)
14:16:43 <kaz> merged
14:16:55 <kaz> subtopic: PR 350
14:17:09 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/350 PR 350 - Remove reference to issue 86
14:17:13 <kaz> mm: a bit longer
14:17:39 <kaz> ... add clarifications
14:18:27 <kaz> ... TM is normative but should not be considered as the sole reference to implement or interact with a directory.
14:18:45 <kaz> s/directory/Thing Description Directory/
14:19:08 <kaz> ft: pagenation itself is optional
14:19:34 <kaz> mm: the question is if we've modeled the spec features correctly
14:19:49 <kaz> ... can you look into that?
14:19:56 <kaz> ft: ok, can look into it
14:20:10 <kaz> mm: want to merge this PR 350 itself
14:20:32 <kaz> ... also the original issue 86
14:20:42 <kaz> ... any objections to merge it?
14:20:44 <kaz> (none)
14:20:46 <kaz> merged
14:21:10 <kaz> subtopic: PR 351
14:21:21 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/351 PR 351 - Update Change Log
14:21:34 <kaz> mm: Farshid pointed out something was missing
14:21:41 <kaz> ... so looked into old PRs
14:21:54 <kaz> ... then updated things
14:22:20 <kaz> ... someone needs to go through the changes to make sure
14:22:33 <kaz> ... Farshid, can you look into it?
14:22:44 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pulls?page=1&q=is%3Apr+is%3Aclosed+merged%3A%3E2021-04-15 old PRs list
14:22:50 <kaz> ft: yeah
14:23:30 <kaz> mm: why don't you make suggestions?
14:23:47 <kaz> subtopic: PR 346
14:24:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/346 PR 346 - June 2022 Implementation Report Update
14:24:18 <kaz> mm: worked on my scripts and fixed bugs
14:24:30 <kaz> ... note that the CSS is not that smart
14:24:49 <kaz> ... some assertions have the same IDs
14:25:07 <kaz> q+
14:25:46 <kaz> ... updated my tools to use <div>s
14:26:03 <kaz> ... and <span>s
14:26:40 <kaz> ... note currently using <p> tags around <span> and <div>
14:26:52 <kaz> ... (goes through the changes)
14:28:32 <kaz> ... (shows rendered spec and Implementation Report for Discovery)
14:29:13 <kaz> ... all 0s within the report means no implementations yet
14:29:26 <kaz> s/s yet/ yet/
14:30:07 <kaz> ... would like to merge this PR
14:31:13 <kaz> kaz: merging this PR is ok
14:31:48 <kaz> ... but we need to fix the issue on overlapping IDs and span/div within <p>
14:32:22 <kaz> ... we need to fix them before publishing the next draft
14:33:04 <kaz> ... because we need to check the document using the Validator, etc., before publication :)
14:33:30 <kaz> ... so let's merge this PR and create another issue to fix the editorial issues
14:34:00 <kaz> mm: right
14:35:49 <kaz> ft: how to deal with the exploration features?
14:36:45 <kaz> mm: currently, "service-http-***" and "service-coap-***"
14:37:04 <kaz> ... can change them to "exploration-server-http-***", etc.
14:38:30 <kaz> ... (added edits)
14:39:39 <kaz> ... template.csv lists all the assertions
14:39:59 <kaz> ... manual.csv to be installed under the test area
14:40:40 <kaz> ... we've not got volunteers for the todo.csv file
14:41:52 <kaz> ... would like to merge this PR
14:42:03 <kaz> ... and add further improvements later
14:42:41 <kaz> ... (shows wot-discovery/testing/manual.csv)
14:42:58 <kaz> ft: what's the difference between null and fail?
14:43:09 <kaz> mm: null means no implementation yet
14:43:31 <kaz> ... fail means there is some implementation but it didn't pass
14:44:01 <kaz> ... please look into it
14:44:09 <kaz> ... and we can have discussion next week
14:44:33 <kaz> ... would merge this PR
14:44:38 <kaz> (no objections)
14:44:41 <kaz> merged
14:45:21 <kaz> topic: todo.csv
14:45:36 <kaz> mm: how to fix the remaining issues?
14:46:03 <kaz> (=unimplemented features)
14:46:39 <kaz> mm: anybody working on "exploration-server-coap-alternate-content"?
14:46:45 <kaz> ft: thought Jan was working on that
14:46:58 <kaz> mm: also Christian
14:47:39 <kaz> ... (adds Jan and Christian to coap-alternate-content, coap-method, coap-resp, coap-size2
14:47:49 <kaz> s/size2/size2)/
14:48:22 <kaz> ... http-alternate-content is easy
14:48:57 <kaz> ... (adds "manual, easy" to http-altrnate-content and http-alternate-language
14:49:03 <kaz> s/language/language)/
14:49:18 <kaz> ... (also assigns McCool/Farshid to those features)
14:50:15 <kaz> ft: Andrea also?
14:50:24 <kaz> ac: yes, working on some more
14:51:52 <kaz> ... http-resp-content
14:53:03 <kaz> mm: tdd-http-erro-response-utf-8 is easy
14:53:30 <kaz> ... (assigns McCool/Farshid)
14:53:46 <kaz> ... what about tdd-context-injection?
14:53:58 <kaz> ca: myself and Farshid
14:54:17 <kaz> mm: (assigns tdd-context-injection to Andrea and Farshid)
14:55:06 <kaz> ... tdd-http-representation-alternate-output?
14:55:34 <kaz> s/ca:/ac:/
14:55:52 <kaz> mm: SPARQL does this
14:56:39 <kaz> ac: I've implemented the feature natively without SPARQL
14:58:04 <kaz> mm: Farshid, could you look into some more?
14:58:44 <kaz> ... tddnotification-data, data-create-full, data-diff-unsupporteed, data-td-id
14:59:33 <kaz> ... tdd-things-list-pagination-order-utf-8 by McCool
14:59:39 <kaz> s/pagen/pagin/
15:01:16 <kaz> s/pagen/pagin/
15:01:18 <kaz> s/pagen/pagin/
15:01:35 <kaz> ... let's continue the discussion next week
15:01:39 <kaz> [adjourned]
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