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13:34:07 <Zakim> Meeting: Silver Task Force & Community Group
13:34:10 <Lauriat> agenda+ Meeting on 1 July (US holiday weekend)?
13:34:29 <Lauriat> agenda+ Report from the conformance options sub-group
13:34:41 <Lauriat> agenda+ Migration Exercise
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14:00:05 <Chuck> agenda?
14:00:10 <Lauriat> Present+
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14:00:52 <janina> present+
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14:05:50 <Makoto> present+
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14:05:57 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up item 1
14:05:57 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Meeting on 1 July (US holiday weekend)? -- taken up [from Lauriat]
14:06:51 <maryjom> present+
14:07:02 <janina> +1
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14:07:04 <Makoto> +1
14:07:04 <sarahhorton> present+
14:07:04 <Chuck> +1 Jeanne to attending July 1
14:07:06 <maryjom> +1
14:07:11 <sarahhorton> -1
14:07:15 <Chuck> Chuck:  0 Uncertain
14:07:17 <Lauriat> +.5 (maybe)
14:07:26 <Poornima> +1
14:08:05 <Azlan> present+
14:08:11 <Azlan> scribe: Azlan
14:09:24 <Chuck> RESOLUTION:  Silver will not meet for the July 1st instance of the Silver call.
14:09:35 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up next item
14:09:35 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lauriat
14:09:39 <Lauriat> q?
14:10:09 <Chuck> ack Poor
14:10:16 <Lauriat> Zakim, take up next item
14:10:16 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Report from the conformance options sub-group -- taken up [from Lauriat]
14:11:20 <janina> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G9q082IFl4Rj4o07qMx8Y_5oFoDN7Lmx-5i3ViROpD8/
14:11:41 <Azlan> janina: we are presenting a summary of use cases. This is another view we will present to AGWG on Tuesday. There is a two page summary as the full document is large.
14:12:51 <Chuck> q+
14:12:52 <Azlan> We have been talking about options to incorporate the concerns but we have realised these use cases impact a wider range of groups than just conformance.
14:14:13 <Azlan> We have recently been asked to consider an impact statement which we believe to be a good approach but cannot do this in time for Tuesday.
14:15:58 <Lauriat> ack Chuck
14:16:39 <Azlan> Chuck: You've identified there will be impact to other groups will that be explained on Tuesday or addressed?
14:17:32 <Azlan> janina: We are exploring ways this needs to be addressed but the use cases on their own are a central repository that should be separated out.
14:18:36 <Azlan> we looked at partial conformance and questioned whether this is technical or policy.
14:19:43 <Azlan> jeanne: Have not been able to split out that document yet
14:20:39 <Azlan> q?
14:23:03 <Azlan> janina: we think we have arranged the situations from least to most controversial. We would appreciate feedback on that.
14:23:50 <Chuck> +1 using strategy of starting from least controversial and scaling up to "most"
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14:25:27 <Azlan> zakim, next item
14:25:27 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Migration Exercise -- taken up [from Lauriat]
14:25:42 <Chuck> I did not
14:26:26 <Chuck> I would be interested in discussing now?
14:28:13 <Azlan> Poornima: we were working on labels and instructions. It would be good to consolidate all the related information for these under these guidelines.
14:29:00 <Azlan> q?
14:29:00 <Lauriat> q?
14:30:16 <Poornima> q+
14:30:18 <Azlan> sarahhorton: It's been a helpful exercise to tease apart the intent behind labels and instructions. Is the exercise also about ideating what this should be including as we move forward?
14:31:11 <Azlan> jeanne: We don't want to expand too much but we want to be based on user needs. Part of what we want to do is to reorganise things.
14:31:53 <Azlan> But we don't want to be breaking ground on new items not based on research
14:33:42 <Poornima> q-
14:33:51 <Chuck> q+
14:34:03 <Poornima> +1 to sarah's points
14:34:23 <Azlan> sarahhorton: we could create a set of requirements that pull from different requirements to create something focussed on labels and instructions. I want to ensure we are doing the right work for the migration process.
14:34:36 <Makoto> +1 to Sarah's points as well
14:35:23 <Makoto> q+
14:35:24 <Azlan> jeanne: Suggest staying high level - the big things we want to categorise are the types of tests and the scope.
14:35:58 <Poornima> q+
14:36:07 <Lauriat> ack Chuck
14:36:20 <Azlan> sarahhorton: break down the use case and user needs into granular testable units
14:37:01 <Lauriat> ack Makoto
14:37:04 <Azlan> Chuck: Janina experienced a similar thing with regards to captioning
14:38:49 <Azlan> Makoto: there are sufficient techniques to assiciate labels with form controls under 1.1.1, 1.1.3 and others which makes this complicated
14:39:09 <Lauriat> ack Poornima
14:39:16 <Makoto> s/1.1.3/1.3.1
14:39:54 <Chuck> q+
14:40:12 <Azlan> Poornima: Can we include notes for the cross-referencing?
14:40:25 <Lauriat> ack Chuck
14:40:33 <Azlan> jeanne: Including in the notes is probably the way forwards
14:41:00 <Azlan> Chuck: Looking forward to seeing those notes with the references
14:41:07 <Lauriat> qv?
14:41:38 <Azlan> jeanne: people have long been talking bout the need to break up 1.3.1
14:43:12 <Azlan> On Tuesday we will ask everyone to take success criteria and work on them. We would like to do a dry run of this.
14:43:25 <jeanne> Assignment spreadsheet -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tXIaJxQCyuOTkvLcJR5QgTN13h6dIgtUlE7H9CUCvew/edit#gid=0
14:48:00 <Poornima> q+ I can start exploring Name, Role & Value
14:48:26 <Poornima> q+
14:52:53 <Poornima> just fyi - I added Google doc link for 'Labels and Instructions' in the spreadsheet
14:53:10 <Lauriat> Thank you!
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14:59:19 <Azlan> zakim, bye
14:59:19 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jeanne, Makoto, Poornima, janina, sarahhorton, Lauriat, maryjom, Azlan
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14:59:43 <Azlan> rrsagent, make minutes
14:59:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/17-silver-minutes.html Azlan
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