12:42:55 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:42:55 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/15-rqtf-irc 12:42:57 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:42:58 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:42:59 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:42:59 Date: 15 June 2022 12:43:10 scribe+ jasonjgw 12:43:17 present+ 12:43:22 chair: jasonjgw 12:43:56 agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. 12:43:56 agenda+ Accessibility of remote meetings. 12:43:56 agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools. 12:43:56 agenda+ Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API. 12:43:56 agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. 12:43:59 agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. 12:44:01 agenda+ Miscellaneous topics. 12:57:17 janina has joined #rqtf 12:57:23 agenda? 12:57:27 present+ 12:58:00 present+ Scott 13:01:12 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:01:33 zakim, next item 13:01:34 agendum 1 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:01:35 present+ 13:01:51 scribe+ SteveNoble 13:02:18 present+ Josh 13:02:30 Lionel_Wolberger has joined #rqtf 13:02:35 agenda? 13:02:40 present+ 13:03:47 jasonjgw: The announcement text has been drafted and is ready for further editing 13:05:02 janina: Editorial changes to the SAUR itself are a little further in the Note process 13:06:08 janina: The Note will be published now that the CfC has been successful - that itself is independent of the messaging 13:08:55 zakim, next item 13:08:55 agendum 2 -- Accessibility of remote meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:09:35 jasonjgw: Emails with the EO working group have transpired 13:10:35 jasonjgw: They may have comments on the draft 13:11:19 jasonjgw: We do not yet have an ETA on comments as of this point 13:12:09 jasonjgw: The CfC runs through Friday 13:12:57 q? 13:13:00 q+ 13:13:18 scott: Have we any new COGA comments? 13:14:05 janina: We went through all their comments and dealt with each one, although not all were adopted 13:15:23 janina: Would be good to have a summary of how we addressed each comment 13:15:57 Scott: will look at these and list them out so they are documented 13:18:11 jasonjgw: Other comments 13:18:46 ack Lionel_Wolberger 13:19:56 zakim, next item 13:19:56 agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:21:28 zakim, take up item 6 13:21:28 agendum 6 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:22:03 Lionel_Wolberger: Apple has moved forward with Passkey 13:22:47 Lionel_Wolberger: We are tracking this - reached out to get more details 13:23:53 Lionel_Wolberger: Meeting with Manu this week - should give us more perspective 13:26:01 janina: There is a movement away from multiple passwords, which should also be heading toward human authentication 13:26:55 present+ Raja 13:28:16 Raja: There are a lot of users who find face recognition or verbal authentication innaccessible - especially if there are more than one users on a give device 13:29:02 janina: We have always stressed multiple authentication techniques 13:29:29 janina: There are mechanisms for a single device to accommodate multiple users 13:30:38 janina: The problem is when a user who doesn't already have account access set up tries to use it 13:32:18 Josh: downloadable keys are also a possible method 13:32:46 jasonjgw: The expectation is that the user has at least one method that works for them 13:33:43 janina: APA has always insisted that the multiple biometric options be available - not just one 13:35:02 janina: A lot of this presumes access to a mobile device - which is not a reality everywhere 13:36:27 jasonjgw: We can come back to this next week 13:37:27 jasonjgw: At some point we will need to update the existing document 13:38:02 janina: That would probably be after TPAC due to other priorities 13:38:25 Lionel_Wolberger: Any further thoughts from Raja? 13:38:36 Raja: Nothing else 13:39:50 Lionel_Wolberger: One corner of this discussion of caretaker identities (like power of attorney in the legal field) 13:40:30 Lionel_Wolberger: One example is a child's account that must be set up by a parent 13:40:56 raja: One example is using a voice relay service 13:41:45 Raja: Cannot use voice authentication for a bank account, since the vocal assistant changes 13:42:26 raja: Under US law, all banks must accept a call that comes from a voice relay service 13:44:04 Lionel_Wolberger: Examples include fiduciary, caretaker, POA, interpreter, etc. 13:44:52 janina: A lot of concerns also for users with cognitive issues 13:45:18 Lionel_Wolberger: Thanks to the signers on the call! 13:45:39 zakim, take up item 3 13:45:39 agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:46:15 jasonjgw: Thanks to Scott for the references on the wiki 13:46:37 jasonjgw: We need a title and need to firm up the scope 13:46:57 jasonjgw: Annotation tools should be in scope 13:47:33 jasonjgw: Ideas for refining the scope and title? 13:48:10 Scott: Like the term "online collaboration tools" 13:49:09 janina: Regardless of the title, we need the short name for the repository 13:50:06 Josh: "Collaboration accessibility user requirements" 13:53:28 jasonjgw: Some points include Revision management, annotation and comments, multiple users at the same time, handling viewing and editing rights, etc. 13:54:27 janina: We can assume Copyright issues are handled by access rights and policies 13:56:00 zakim, next item 13:56:00 agendum 4 -- Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:56:22 zakim, close item 4 13:56:22 agendum 4, Potential accessibility-related use cases for reporting API., closed 13:56:24 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 13:56:24 5. Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. [from jasonjgw] 13:56:31 zakim, next item 13:56:31 agendum 5 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:56:35 janina has left #rqtf 13:57:24 jasonjgw: Josh and I worked on the editorial comments, but still have more to go through 13:58:00 jasonjgw: We will need to bring back to next week's meeting 13:58:00 zakim, nxt item 13:58:00 I don't understand 'nxt item', jasonjgw 13:58:08 zakim, next item 13:58:08 agendum 6 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:58:19 zakim, close item 6 13:58:19 agendum 6, Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA., closed 13:58:20 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 13:58:20 7. Miscellaneous topics. [from jasonjgw] 13:58:27 zakim, next item 13:58:27 agendum 7 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:58:48 Scott: nothing now 13:59:12 jasonjgw: XR access symposium happened last week 13:59:48 zakim, bye 13:59:48 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, Scott, SteveNoble, Josh, Lionel_Wolberger, Raja 13:59:48 Zakim has left #rqtf 13:59:54 rrsagent, make minutes 13:59:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/15-rqtf-minutes.html jasonjgw 14:03:13 becky has joined #rqtf