12:49:28 RRSAgent has joined #silver-reliability 12:49:28 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/14-silver-reliability-irc 12:49:31 RRSAgent, make logs Public 12:49:32 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne 12:49:44 Meeting: Test Reliability 12:50:19 present: 12:50:19 chair: Francis 12:50:19 present+ 12:50:19 zakim, clear agenda 12:50:19 rrsagent, make minutes 12:50:19 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/14-silver-reliability-minutes.html jeanne 12:50:19 q? 12:50:19 agenda cleared 12:59:24 regrets: Wilco 13:02:41 Topic: Pending Survey results 13:02:49 Francis_Storr has joined #silver-reliability 13:02:57 JS; We will get more answers before the agwg 13:03:25 Survey Results -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/pronounciation_wcag3/results 13:03:46 s/before the agwg/before the AGWG meeting 13:07:31 I think the problem is how people are reading the outcome and interpret it as putting responsibility on AT instead of author. 13:07:55 scribe+ jeanne 13:08:04 s/I think the problem is /JS: I think the problem is 13:09:22 JS: Propose: Authors code their content so that assistive technologies using text to speech can pronounce blocks of text in their natural language. 13:15:39 Topic: Apple iOS announces Voiceover support for SSML for language changes 13:15:47 Apple SSML example video: Start at 7 minutes https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10153/ 13:16:13 JS: That's cool. We should write up an example of that. It would be great to have a Method for iOS. 13:23:22 Topic: Blocks of Text 13:24:38 croissant 13:28:25 JS: Proposed: We defined "blocks of text" to provide an objective way to determine a minimum requirement when a language change is required. Changing language for the word "croissant" reduces the accessibility for a screen reader user because of the lag in changing language packs. This could change in the future as AT improves, but for now, changing by word is excessive, and 13:28:25 "pieces of text" cannot be objectively defined. Is it 3 words, is it 4 words? What is a piece of text? A block can be defined, and note that it does include headings and table cell entries. See Block of Text definition -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG3/2022/methods/html-lang-attribute/#block-of-text-def 13:36:45 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjmGLfmqcfLgauqg0C3dRZG6KYT2dy5BQ69sz4xet6Q/edit# 13:38:29 Topic: Default Lang attribute 13:38:46 Original that Gundula objects to: "Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute. The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English. The attribute value must match the natural language of the page title element. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element." 13:39:12 Proposed: Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute indicating the default language. The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English. The attribute value must match the natural language of the page title element. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element. 13:42:35 Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute indicating the default natural language of the page. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element.The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English. 14:41:28 rrsagent, make minutes 14:41:28 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/14-silver-reliability-minutes.html jeanne 14:56:04 Zakim has left #silver-reliability 15:04:49 Francis_Storr has joined #silver-reliability 15:04:52 rrsagent, bye 15:04:52 I see no action items