IRC log of silver-reliability on 2022-06-14
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne
- 12:49:44 [jeanne]
- Meeting: Test Reliability
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- present:
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- chair: Francis
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- present+
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/14-silver-reliability-minutes.html jeanne
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- q?
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- agenda cleared
- 12:59:24 [jeanne]
- regrets: Wilco
- 13:02:41 [jeanne]
- Topic: Pending Survey results
- 13:02:49 [Francis_Storr]
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- JS; We will get more answers before the agwg
- 13:03:25 [jeanne]
- Survey Results -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/pronounciation_wcag3/results
- 13:03:46 [jeanne]
- s/before the agwg/before the AGWG meeting
- 13:07:31 [jeanne]
- I think the problem is how people are reading the outcome and interpret it as putting responsibility on AT instead of author.
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- scribe+ jeanne
- 13:08:04 [jeanne]
- s/I think the problem is /JS: I think the problem is
- 13:09:22 [jeanne]
- JS: Propose: Authors code their content so that assistive technologies using text to speech can pronounce blocks of text in their natural language.
- 13:15:39 [jeanne]
- Topic: Apple iOS announces Voiceover support for SSML for language changes
- 13:15:47 [Francis_Storr]
- Apple SSML example video: Start at 7 minutes https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10153/
- 13:16:13 [jeanne]
- JS: That's cool. We should write up an example of that. It would be great to have a Method for iOS.
- 13:23:22 [jeanne]
- Topic: Blocks of Text
- 13:24:38 [Francis_Storr]
- croissant
- 13:28:25 [jeanne]
- JS: Proposed: We defined "blocks of text" to provide an objective way to determine a minimum requirement when a language change is required. Changing language for the word "croissant" reduces the accessibility for a screen reader user because of the lag in changing language packs. This could change in the future as AT improves, but for now, changing by word is excessive, and
- 13:28:25 [jeanne]
- "pieces of text" cannot be objectively defined. Is it 3 words, is it 4 words? What is a piece of text? A block can be defined, and note that it does include headings and table cell entries. See Block of Text definition -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG3/2022/methods/html-lang-attribute/#block-of-text-def
- 13:36:45 [Francis_Storr]
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjmGLfmqcfLgauqg0C3dRZG6KYT2dy5BQ69sz4xet6Q/edit#
- 13:38:29 [jeanne]
- Topic: Default Lang attribute
- 13:38:46 [jeanne]
- Original that Gundula objects to: "Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute. The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English. The attribute value must match the natural language of the page title element. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element."
- 13:39:12 [jeanne]
- Proposed: Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute indicating the default language. The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English. The attribute value must match the natural language of the page title element. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element.
- 13:42:35 [jeanne]
- Ensure that the HTML element has a lang attribute indicating the default natural language of the page. Changes in language must be indicated using the lang attribute on the closest parent element.The lang attribute value must use a valid language tag, for example lang="en" indicates the language as English.
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/14-silver-reliability-minutes.html jeanne
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- rrsagent, bye
- 15:04:52 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items