14:00:49 RRSAgent has joined #wot-discovery 14:00:49 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/13-wot-discovery-irc 14:01:13 meeting: WoT Discovery 14:02:01 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Discovery_WebConf#13_June_2022 14:02:11 ktoumura has joined #wot-discovery 14:02:27 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Christian_Glomb, Kunihiko_Toumura 14:02:41 present+ Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Cristiano_Aguzzi 14:04:02 acimmino has joined #wot-discovery 14:04:42 present+ Andrea_Cimmino, Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:04:47 zakim, who is on the call? 14:04:47 Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Christian_Glomb, Kunihiko_Toumura, Farshid_Tavakolizadeh, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Andrea_Cimmino, Tomoaki_Mizushima 14:06:19 scribenick: glomb 14:06:25 cris_ has joined #wot-discovery 14:06:30 present+ Jan_Romann 14:09:00 topic: Minutes 14:09:08 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/06/06-wot-discovery-minutes.html June-6 14:09:10 approved 14:09:18 Minutes from last meeting - approved 14:09:29 topic: PRs 14:09:53 rrsagent, make log public 14:09:57 rrsagent, draft minute 14:09:57 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minute', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 14:10:01 s/rrsagent, draft minute// 14:10:03 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:10:03 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:10:10 jkrhb_ has joined #wot-discovery 14:10:48 mmc: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/334 - CoAP added / https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/337 - CoAP removed 14:10:56 mmc: But not inconsistent 14:11:32 i/334/mmc: (goes through the PRs on the wot-discovery repo) 14:12:04 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/336 14:12:13 i/336/subtopic: PR 336/ 14:12:14 mmc: Was discussed in Security call 14:12:20 s/https/-> https/ 14:12:40 s/336/336 PR 336 - Fix TLS assertions for TD Server| 14:12:48 s/Server|/Server/ 14:13:17 mmc: Does apply not just to http 14:13:56 farshid: Should be also be there for Directory 14:14:24 looks good 14:14:27 i|Was discussed|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/335 related Issue 335 - Fix TLS Assertions| 14:14:39 Merged to clean up inconsistencies 14:14:57 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/334 14:15:44 i/inconsistencies/inconsistencies on TLS Assertions/ 14:15:51 i/334/subtopic: PR 334/ 14:15:57 s/https/-> https/ 14:16:08 DTLS removed from PR 14:16:26 s/334/334 PR 334 - Add text for discovery using CoAP/ 14:17:04 s/DTLS/mmc: DTLS/ 14:17:43 q+ 14:18:07 ack c 14:18:40 cristiano: http head might not make sense in CoAP (due to blockwise transfer) 14:19:17 jan: Server can choose to ignore Size2 option 14:19:50 i|http head might|-> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-discovery/334/0549320...JKRhb:35d7b3c.html#exploration-server diff - 7.2 Thing Description Server 14:19:59 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:19:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz 14:21:04 cristiano / jan: node-wot might support it (as self-described thing) 14:21:35 mmc: Could be "marked at risk" in case of no second implementation 14:24:11 mmc: Merge it and improve later, new issue created for improvements: https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/340 14:25:05 jkrhb_ has joined #wot-discovery 14:26:01 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/334 squash/merged 14:26:14 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/329 14:26:16 chair: McCool 14:26:26 i/329/topic: PR 329 14:26:29 mmc: Might also affect CoAP 14:26:33 s/https/-> https/ 14:27:25 s/329/329 PR 329 - Content types: optional tree prefixes and parameters, split req/res content negotiation/ 14:27:38 mmc: Language a bit confusing 14:28:49 q+ 14:31:21 cristiano / andrea: Why allow different return content types? 14:32:21 farshid: Technically equivalent, but differentiate "semantic content" 14:33:07 mmc: Improvement in https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/issues/341 14:33:18 ack c 14:34:08 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/329 squash/merged 14:34:51 farshid: Same also allowed in directories 14:34:58 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/337 14:37:49 mmc: Examples commented out, two other slight improvements 14:38:20 cristiano: Good idea to remove - maybe confusing - examples 14:38:33 mmc: Decouple from protocols 14:39:06 i/337/subtopic: PR 337/ 14:39:11 mmc: Think about reverting commented out examples 14:39:17 s/https/-> https/ 14:39:30 s/337/337 PR 337 - Clean up Discoverer section/ 14:39:47 https://github.com/w3c/wot-discovery/pull/331 14:40:22 mmc: Wants to update implementation report, but not merge PR 14:41:21 mmc: Some cleanup in list of assertion necessary, and need to re-synchronize testing tools (for all zero entries) 14:41:23 i/331/subtopic: PR 331/ 14:41:32 s/https/-> https/ 14:41:46 s/331/331 PR 331 - June 2022 Implementation Report/ 14:42:55 mmc: Also several at risk features for e.g. notifications 14:44:23 farshid: Looks like several results are missing 14:44:41 mmc: Will look it up in results from March testfest 14:45:19 mmc: Take care of assertion IDs that might have changed 14:46:29 glomb: How to identify "low hanging fruits"? 14:47:17 mmc: atrisk.csv is omitting "all-zeros" 14:47:55 Idea: Make PRs against todo.csv 14:49:02 mmc: 62 + x (all-zeros) assertions to be addressed 14:51:18 mmc: Leave PR and add more results to June event 14:52:02 mmc: Restart 2-week review? 14:52:49 q+ 14:53:02 q+ 14:53:57 kaz: Should merge latest implementation report and then create new issues 14:54:22 ack k 14:55:09 cristiano: We should restart 14:57:17 s/Should merge/Regarding the spec work, I'm OK with that direction. However, would strongly suggest we merge the/ 14:57:44 s/new issues/new issues so that everybody can review the latest report easily./ 14:57:55 mmc: Consider this version as a CR candidate (which is not CR version) 14:58:17 s/We should restart/Regarding the spec, we should restart the review./ 14:58:54 McCool has joined #wot-discovery 15:00:02 proposal: update .well-known/wot-thing-description to .well-known/wot, merge, and tag resulting version as the CR candidate and start a two-week review process in the main call this Wednesday, June 15. 15:01:02 proposal: update .well-known/wot-thing-description to .well-known/wot, merge, and tag resulting version as the CR candidate and start a two-week review process in the main call this Wednesday, June 15; and we will abandon the current WD proposed branch. 15:01:51 resolution: update .well-known/wot-thing-description to .well-known/wot, merge, and tag resulting version as the CR candidate and start a two-week review process in the main call this Wednesday, June 15; and we will abandon the current WD proposed branch. 15:03:14 [adjourned] 15:03:20 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:03:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/13-wot-discovery-minutes.html kaz