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14:01:25 <kaz> meeting: WoT Testfest - Day 4
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14:01:55 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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14:07:44 <Ege> topic: TD PRs
14:08:02 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
14:09:01 <Ege> mm: I forgot that we need to add extra asserts
14:09:24 <Ege> ... ege made a PR and fixed the issue
14:10:54 <Ege> ek: I am amazed that you did it manually, we should automate it
14:10:54 <kaz> s/asserts/assertions/
14:11:02 <kaz> s/ege made/Ege made/
14:11:26 <Ege> mm: So I have removed them from supressed.csv for the testing phase
14:12:15 <Ege> mm: now our report is looking better
14:12:57 <kaz> present+ Fady_Salama
14:15:30 <kaz> i/So I have/(McCool shows report11.html on his PC)/
14:15:56 <kaz> q+
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14:17:06 <kaz> present+ David_Ezell
14:18:11 <Ege> sk: we should implement the lower hanging fruits
14:18:23 <Ege> mm: yes so that we can see the actually difficult things
14:18:36 <Ege> kaz: we need to organize this call better
14:19:38 <Ege> mm: if you have targeted an assertion in your PR, mention it
14:20:28 <kaz> s/we need to organize this call better/starting with this draft implementation report is fine, but we should organize this call better. So would suggest we capture the existing issues first, starting with the issue of the procedure, missing tests, etc. And then discuss how to solve them next./
14:20:40 <kaz> ack k
14:22:10 <kaz> q+
14:23:33 <kaz> kaz: so would suggest we quickly skim this draft table, and see what the existing problems are./
14:23:39 <kaz> s|are./||
14:23:41 <kaz> ack k
14:23:59 <Ege> q+
14:24:25 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
14:24:26 <Ege> ack e
14:24:42 <Ege> q+
14:24:49 <kaz> mm: (goes through the draft report11.html)
14:25:26 <kaz> subtopic: zero data
14:25:33 <Ege> ack e
14:25:51 <kaz> ek: regarding the results with 0 data, should be the problem with the test mechanism itself
14:25:51 <Ege> ek: if we see a line with red 0 everywhere, it is a testing problem
14:26:41 <kaz> subtopic: td-security-oauth2-client-flow
14:26:46 <kaz> mm: need one more implementation
14:27:16 <kaz> subtopic: td-security-auth2-code-flow
14:27:27 <kaz> mm: need 2 implementations
14:27:36 <kaz> subtopic: allOf
14:28:22 <kaz> subtopic: anchor--Link
14:28:48 <kaz> kaz: 2 dashes within the title correct?
14:28:59 <kaz> mm: yes, that's table assertion
14:29:33 <kaz> subtopic: at-type--SecurityScheme
14:29:56 <kaz> subtopic: contentCoding--Form
14:30:29 <kaz> mm: similarly with contentProtection
14:30:44 <kaz> subtopic: default--DataSchema
14:31:02 <kaz> subtopic: DigestSecurityScheme
14:31:26 <kaz> subtopic: minLength--SringSchema
14:31:38 <kaz> subtopic: multipleOf--IntegerScehema
14:31:42 <kaz> mm: surprising...
14:31:57 <kaz> subtopic: BasicSecurityScheme
14:32:13 <kaz> mm: similar to DigestSecurityScheme
14:32:16 <kaz> ... should be easy
14:32:30 <kaz> subtopic: ComboSecuritycheme
14:32:41 <kaz> mm: I have a proxy and still need one more
14:32:52 <kaz> subtopic: op--Form
14:32:57 <kaz> mm: surprised
14:33:01 <kaz> ... pretty much used
14:33:16 <kaz> ek: there are child assertions
14:33:22 <kaz> mm: right
14:33:53 <kaz> subtopic: queryaction
14:33:58 <kaz> mm: should be easy
14:34:03 <kaz> ek: not merged yet
14:34:07 <kaz> .... maybe some problem there
14:34:17 <kaz> mm: ok, need to clean it up
14:34:31 <kaz> subtopic: pattern--StringSchema
14:34:36 <kaz> ek: new features
14:34:43 <kaz> s/features/feature/
14:34:46 <kaz> mm: ok
14:35:07 <kaz> sutopic: proxy--DigestSecurityScheme
14:35:20 <kaz> mm: qop (quality of protection)
14:35:29 <kaz> s/sutopic/subtopic/
14:35:42 <kaz> subtopic: sizes--Link
14:35:46 <kaz> mm: just icon
14:36:03 <kaz> subtopic: subprotocol--Form
14:36:09 <kaz> mm: any child assertion?
14:36:19 <kaz> ek: just did yesterday
14:36:48 <kaz> ... there is just an example but no actual child assertion
14:37:09 <kaz> topic: tm-extend
14:37:14 <kaz> mm: TM assertions
14:37:29 <kaz> ... related to modularity of TM
14:37:41 <kaz> subtopic: placeholder
14:37:45 <kaz> mm: need some text
14:37:51 <kaz> subtopic: tmRef1
14:38:04 <dape> q+
14:38:06 <kaz> subtopic: tmRequired
14:38:17 <kaz> mm: got one from Siemens
14:38:32 <kaz> ... and need another from the other implementers
14:38:52 <kaz> sk: kind of surprised
14:38:57 <Ege> tm-extend is tracked here: https://github.com/thingweb/thingweb-playground/issues/266
14:39:13 <kaz> dp: node-wot should be able to cover it
14:39:56 <kaz> mm: consuming TM is a bit different
14:39:58 <dape> ack dape
14:40:19 <kaz> topic: next table starting with binding...
14:40:47 <kaz> subtopic: privacy-auth...
14:40:53 <kaz> mm: these are easy
14:41:25 <kaz> ... need manual assertions
14:41:43 <kaz> subtopic: td-context-ns-td10-namespacev10
14:41:56 <kaz> mm: test cases?
14:42:06 <kaz> s/v10/(v10)/
14:42:46 <kaz> ek: will work on the test cases
14:43:10 <kaz> subtopic: td-default...
14:43:18 <kaz> mm: handled by Consumers
14:43:32 <kaz> ... don't have many Consumers
14:43:51 <kaz> ... but surprised if node-wot can't handle this
14:44:36 <kaz> (specifically, td-default-idempotent and td-default-in-apikey)
14:44:46 <kaz> dp: let me check again
14:45:14 <kaz> sk: these features were included in TD 1.0 already
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14:45:30 <kaz> mm: might be included in Huawei's results
14:45:31 <kaz> q+
14:46:15 <kaz> ack k
14:46:41 <kaz> kaz: as I mentioned the other day, we should clarify how to deal with old results for compatible features
14:46:51 <kaz> ... importing the old results should be fine, though
14:46:53 <kaz> mm: ok
14:47:30 <kaz> ... wondering what implementation(s) cover all the features in addition to node-wot
14:47:45 <kaz> subtopic: td-ns-multilanguage-content-negotiation
14:48:01 <kaz> mm: need 2 implementations
14:48:16 <kaz> subtopic: security-extension
14:48:29 <kaz> subtopic: td-text-at-direction
14:48:38 <kaz> mm: need to cover the example
14:48:40 <kaz> q?
14:48:41 <kaz> q+
14:49:28 <kaz> kaz: do we have actual text within the spec?
14:49:36 <kaz> ... or just examples?
14:49:51 <kaz> mm: these assertions have been extracted from the spec text
14:50:39 <kaz> ... this can be covered by any existing TD (by adding an entry for this)
14:51:04 <kaz> ... for example, if a Web browser can consume a TD, that's also fine
14:51:07 <kaz> kaz: ok
14:51:25 <kaz> present+ Elodie_Thieblin
14:51:33 <kaz> topic: PRs
14:52:07 <kaz> subtopic: PR 330
14:52:18 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/330 PR 330 - Update input data
14:52:27 <kaz> mm: need to update this
14:52:31 <kaz> s/this/this PR itself/
14:53:19 <kaz> subtopic: PR 324
14:53:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/324 PR 324 - Discovery: Add results for siemens-logilab
14:54:08 <kaz> et: you can merge this PR
14:54:16 <kaz> ... and then I can look into the details
14:54:20 <kaz> (merged)
14:54:35 <kaz> subtopic: PR 328
14:54:46 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/328 PR 328 - Discovery: Add missing registration info IDs, remove auto tested tdd-notification
14:54:51 <kaz> mm: let's merge this
14:54:59 <kaz> ... cleaning up CSV for Discovery
14:55:03 <kaz> (merged)
14:55:17 <kaz> subtopic: PR 332
14:55:29 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/332 PR 332 - Add siemens-logilab TDD thing description
14:55:33 <kaz> mm: about TD
14:55:35 <kaz> (merged)
14:55:52 <kaz> subtopic: PR 334
14:56:02 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/334 PR 334 - manuel assertation CSV file for ediTDor
14:56:04 <kaz> (merged)
14:56:08 <kaz> subtopic: PR 335
14:56:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/335 PR 335 - Added manual assertions CSV for Eclipse Ditto
14:56:59 <kaz> mm: using different name
14:57:31 <kaz> ... let me go ahead and merge this
14:57:32 <kaz> q?
14:57:35 <kaz> ack k
14:57:57 <kaz> kaz: and then you'll check the problem later?
14:57:59 <kaz> mm: yes
14:58:05 <kaz> (merged)
14:58:15 <kaz> subtopic: PR 336
14:58:34 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/336 PR 336 - Update README.md - Improve Instructions
14:58:41 <kaz> mm: just updated the instructions
14:58:43 <kaz> (merged)
14:59:06 <kaz> subtopic: PR 317
14:59:17 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/317 PR 317 - Add manual.csv files for dart_wot
14:59:19 <kaz> mm: need Jon
14:59:24 <kaz> subtopic: PR 330
14:59:34 <dape> s/need Jon/need Jan
14:59:50 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/330 PR 330 - Update input data
15:00:54 <kaz> mm: need to update it
15:01:02 <kaz> ... can merge this and create another PR
15:01:05 <kaz> (merged)
15:01:08 <kaz> topic: Issues
15:02:16 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1524
15:02:35 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1524 PR 1524 - Add old context value
15:02:40 <kaz> mm: bug fix
15:02:43 <kaz> (merged)
15:02:48 <kaz> subtopic: PR 1532
15:03:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1532 PR 1532 - Allow placeholder for required and enum in TMs
15:03:23 <kaz> s/topic: Issues/topic: TD PRs/
15:03:49 <kaz> fs: placeholder must be located much upper
15:04:07 <kaz> q+
15:04:29 <kaz> ack k
15:04:38 <kaz> mm: we're out of time
15:04:43 <kaz> ... let's discuss this tomorrow
15:04:47 <kaz> q+
15:05:39 <kaz> topic: AOB
15:05:49 <kaz> kaz: we should clarify what to discuss tomorrow
15:06:11 <kaz> ... if our goal is finalizing the test platform for this Charter period, that's fine
15:06:20 <kaz> ... but we should clarify our expectations
15:06:42 <kaz> mm: think our goals should be clarifying the gaps this time
15:07:01 <kaz> ... can have follow-up discussion next week
15:07:25 <kaz> kaz: in that case, we should clarify the plan for next week as well
15:07:28 <kaz> ... but let's do that tomorrow
15:07:30 <kaz> mm: ok
15:07:46 <kaz> ... tomorrow, we'll focus on finalizing the gaps mainly
15:07:51 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:08:06 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:08:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:08:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/09-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
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