IRC log of adapt on 2022-06-06

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Meeting: WAI Adapt Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 06 June 2022
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agenda?
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agenda+ Follow-up on name changes: all done?
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agenda+ Report on call with Bliss Symbolics representative
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agenda+ TPAC 12-16 September 2022
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agenda+ CR Status.
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agenda+ Proofreading the spec,ensuring all Adapt edits are complete
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agenda+ Editor's note for symbols (Janina action) regarding https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/203
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agenda+ Content Module Implementations Status
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agenda+ (on hold until following CR) Planning future COGA meetings on our other two modules
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present+
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present+
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scribe+
14:07:31 [CharlesL]
zakim, next item
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agendum 1 -- Follow-up on name changes: all done? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:07:38 [janina]
present+
14:07:58 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: are we all done?
14:08:04 [Roy]
q+
14:08:15 [CharlesL]
…, we have the mailing list, github done, irc done
14:08:18 [janina]
q+
14:09:02 [CharlesL]
Roy: I got the short name approved last Friday, we need to go through another W3C process, should take this Thursday all the documents to the short name ADAPT short name.
14:09:11 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: shortname for git?
14:09:30 [janina]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/video-examples
14:09:32 [CharlesL]
Roy: for all the publications. TR page.
14:09:51 [CharlesL]
janina: I found another posted above
14:10:24 [CharlesL]
Roy:I will update all of them. W3C WAI web pages I will update those once we publish. with new links.
14:10:41 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: everyone should click everything.
14:10:55 [CharlesL]
…, make sure we covered it all.
14:11:02 [CharlesL]
zakim, take up next item
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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, CharlesL
14:11:10 [CharlesL]
q?
14:11:16 [Roy]
ack me
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ack Roy
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ack janina
14:11:31 [CharlesL]
zakim, take up next item
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agendum 2 -- Report on call with Bliss Symbolics representative -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:12:43 [CharlesL]
janina: we had a very good call with Russell
14:12:44 [Lionel_Wolberger]
scribe+ Lionel_Wolberger
14:13:09 [Lionel_Wolberger]
janina: Productive conversation with Russell Galvin
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... W3C will host a registry, at a URL that is to be determined
14:13:57 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... the Bliss Symbolics lookup table, that we have been considering here for many years, will become available to people and machine processes
14:14:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... this registry could host the lookup ID number as well as the symbol, perhaps in SVG format
14:14:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... Russell agreed to remain the single point of contact on this between WAI ADAPT and/or W3C and the Bliss Symbolics Board
14:15:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... Russell will inform his board of these developments, which he is very excited about as it gives Bliss more visibility
14:15:39 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... WAI-Adapt will need to write a spec to host this index of BCI codes
14:16:12 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... the primary "gloss" for each symbol will begin with English, then we can add the several other languages that Bliss has captured
14:16:35 [CharlesL]
q+
14:17:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... Lisa was on the call and we recognized her achievement in shepherding this process to this point
14:18:21 [CharlesL]
ack me
14:18:49 [Lionel_Wolberger]
CharlesL: Great to hear that the Bliss people are talking about unicode
14:19:41 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... is there a template for this registry?
14:19:44 [Roy]
https://www.w3.org/TR/?status=DRY
14:19:52 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... there are schema.org values that can be used
14:20:00 [Roy]
https://www.w3.org/TR/?status=RY
14:20:34 [janina]
https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#registries
14:21:02 [Lionel_Wolberger]
Roy: I do not see any registries current list on line
14:21:15 [Lionel_Wolberger]
janina: we basically need to write a registry, as per https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#registries
14:23:31 [Lionel_Wolberger]
janina: Sounds like we should add this to the TPAC agenda
14:23:45 [Lionel_Wolberger]
... in addition to spoken pronunciation, and epub conversations
14:26:54 [Lionel_Wolberger]
q?
14:26:57 [CharlesL]
zakim, next item
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agendum 3 -- TPAC 12-16 September 2022 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:28:35 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: previous topic, this will get us more exposure being first.
14:29:20 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: We want to get pronunciation gets our insights pronunciation of non-verbal languages
14:29:43 [CharlesL]
…, we want to spend time with EPUB folks.
14:30:25 [CharlesL]
janina: there will be multiple topics along with APA and joint meeting with DPUB. we also meet with I18N and CSS. we are developing an agenda for those.
14:30:50 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: We may want an new thread around new Registry. maybe TAG?
14:31:08 [CharlesL]
janina: we just start doing the work we could use some help there may be others.
14:31:48 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: there could be another group like IOT etc. keep our feelers out.
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agendum 4 -- CR Status. -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:32:39 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: we need proofreaders to read all the specs!
14:33:14 [CharlesL]
janina: we will need this done after Thursday primarily with the new links / short name etc.
14:33:41 [CharlesL]
…, nothing should really change expect the links.
14:33:58 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: but would be good to wait so we can click all the links etc.
14:34:14 [CharlesL]
…, I will send out a scheduled email.
14:34:47 [CharlesL]
janina: what about messaging.. blog posts, tweets etc. there is a wiki that Shawn Henry keeps.
14:35:39 [CharlesL]
…, we need to get all that ready in advance takes time to write / approval with Shawn & Judy. we aren't formally until that is done. we are still thinking we will go to CR in June.
14:35:58 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: we as a TF should create a Blog post ?
14:36:33 [CharlesL]
janina: I believe something is in the works already.
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s/works/work
14:36:55 [janina]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
14:37:35 [CharlesL]
…, recommended, tweet, blog post etc.
14:38:23 [CharlesL]
…, these become the formal announcements, then the W3C will send out to the AC members, look for IP disclosures etc. 60 day kicks off at that time.
14:38:53 [Matthew_Atkinson_]
q+
14:39:36 [CharlesL]
…, once we approve the WD then we log a resolution (could be next monday) to advance to CR and CFC takes about a week with APA, 23rd of June (Thursday) cold publish that Thursday or the following Tuesday.
14:39:41 [Matthew_Atkinson_]
agenda?
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q-
14:39:55 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: we need a blog post to announce the CR.
14:40:18 [CharlesL]
…, due by?… as soon as possible.
14:40:58 [CharlesL]
janina: if we can all proofread over this weekend so that we can start the process since it will take 1 week for APA then Shawn needs 1 week, etc.
14:41:28 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: we should draft this post by end of next week, we could have by the end of June CR, blog post, tweet etc.
14:41:55 [CharlesL]
janina: Judy will want us to send out an announcement to other groups etc.
14:42:14 [CharlesL]
…, it will be announced at the top at W3C.org
14:42:32 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: I am comfortable with this schedule.
14:42:54 [CharlesL]
…, we need to get this draft blog post done.
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q?
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zakim, next item
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agendum 5 -- Proofreading the spec,ensuring all Adapt edits are complete -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:44:37 [CharlesL]
zakim, close this item
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agendum 5 closed
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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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6. Editor's note for symbols (Janina action) regarding https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/203 [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:44:44 [CharlesL]
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agendum 6 -- Editor's note for symbols (Janina action) regarding https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/203 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:45:28 [CharlesL]
janina: I have not yet written it but have all the information to write it up. I can send it on list first before sending to James Craig.
14:46:20 [CharlesL]
Matthew_Atkinson_: reminder I sent Janina /chairs recap of discussion point you to the right place / zoom transcripts. for the background.
14:46:45 [CharlesL]
janina: Yes and additional background with Russell, to set James mind at easy.
14:47:12 [CharlesL]
Matthew_Atkinson_: email I sent was an Editors Note into the spec, this should happen first and then to send to James.
14:47:40 [CharlesL]
…, clean up the note that exists we should say its BCI numbers not Bliss. we also need to reply on Github thread
14:48:08 [CharlesL]
janina: we need to get it done before Thursday so its in the draft. so its in the Draft.
14:48:24 [CharlesL]
Matthew_Atkinson_: I sent you the position in the document where this note goes.
14:48:36 [CharlesL]
janina: I agree BCI not bliss and values.
14:49:39 [CharlesL]
…, Bliss symbolic Communication International (BCI)
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…, (B C I )
14:50:20 [Matthew_Atkinson_]
s/Bliss symbolic Communication International/Blissymbolics Communication International/
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agendum 7 -- Content Module Implementations Status -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:50:33 [Matthew_Atkinson_]
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14:51:02 [Lionel_Wolberger]
q?
14:51:37 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: last month, we got potential implementations once we go to CR.
14:52:16 [CharlesL]
…, others who might do an implementation. Access Board, gave a form we can mark up we don't have any official rendering implementation.
14:52:40 [CharlesL]
janina: I think James Craig indicates Apple's interest as least I am taking it that way.
14:53:15 [CharlesL]
…, now that we are going to CR I will get some responces Cynthia Shelly but she hasn't been responsive.
14:53:32 [CharlesL]
…, I think there may be a Chrome / Safari implementations.
14:53:46 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: content and rendering implementations.
14:55:30 [CharlesL]
…, VMWare in content side, Amazon might be interested, IBM might be interested, Chrome and perhaps Safari. Sales Force was very interested, Oracle. Adobe Indesign, and DAISY
14:56:18 [CharlesL]
janina: Charles with Benetech any form would be nice. could be on Github so we can fork them etc.
14:58:38 [CharlesL]
Charles: I will make a note and see what might be possible and get back to you.
14:59:30 [CharlesL]
Lionel_Wolberger: Exciting . thanks all.
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…, yes review the spec and click everything.
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