12:01:23 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:01:24 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/06/01-wot-irc 12:01:24 Mizushima has joined #wot 12:01:38 McCool_ has joined #wot 12:01:41 meeting: WoT-IG/WG 12:01:46 chair: McCool 12:01:56 regrets+ Sebastian, Ege 12:02:10 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Michael_Koster 12:03:24 ktoumura has joined #wot 12:05:28 dape has joined #wot 12:06:07 present+ Daniel_Peintner, Kunihiko_Toumura, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:06:47 matsuda has joined #wot 12:06:48 scribenick: mjk 12:07:22 topic: Minutes 12:08:08 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/05/25-wot-minutes.html May-25 12:10:07 mm: started 2 week review period for TD last week, starting 2 week review period on Architecture next week 12:12:43 mm: no objections, minutes will bepublished 12:13:03 s/bepublished/be published 12:13:45 mm: presenting to the IEEE group on geolocation and time series databases 12:14:13 i/presenting/topic: IEEE P2874 presentation/ 12:14:15 ... (review of slides for the presentation) 12:16:30 mm: we are interested in discovery based on geolocation, and time series databases with standards for interval time 12:16:51 ... please send mm email with any comments 12:17:12 McCool__ has joined #wot 12:17:13 https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/PRESENTATIONS/2022-06-WoT-IEEE-P2874-McCool.pdf 12:17:34 topic: cancellations and updates 12:17:57 q+ 12:19:33 mm: for the testfest next week, we should cancel except for the main call and the discovery call 12:19:55 ... any other exceptions? 12:20:03 ack d 12:20:26 dape: we hope to approve the CR next week, not sure when Ege and Sebastian will be available 12:20:31 q+ 12:21:27 ack k 12:21:50 kaz: given the cancellations this week, we should make sure we want to cancel the TD meeting 12:22:08 mm: will send email and check with Ege and Sebastian 12:22:39 topic: TPAC questionnaire 12:23:06 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/LogisticsTPAC2022/results 2nd questionnaire (member-only) 12:23:19 mm: we need to know how many people and what time and any joint calls and conflicts 12:23:49 mm: how can we be more precise in the estimate? 12:24:02 q+ 12:24:30 mm: how can we get more input? 12:25:06 kaz: talking with w3c management, and it has been difficult for everyone to get good estimates 12:25:33 ... we can set up our own survey 12:26:16 mm: rough estimate is 10-15 12:26:35 ... next question is what time 12:26:38 s/survey/survey, though/ 12:27:55 -> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20220912&p1=248&p2=195&p3=256 world clock (Tokyo, Paris, Vancouver) 12:28:01 mm: needs to be during business hours in Vancouver 12:30:36 ... the topic of our meetings will be mostly planning for next steps 12:32:04 mm: for joint meetings, we need to pick one group 12:32:33 mm: looking at Spatial Data on the Web group for geolocation 12:33:28 mm: are there any other groups we need to have joint meetings with? 12:33:47 mm: JSON-LD for signatures 12:34:06 kaz: DID 12:34:29 mm: what is DID status? 12:34:36 kaz: PR 12:34:48 ... AC comments 12:35:22 kaz: there should be a DID group there 12:35:57 q? 12:35:59 ack k 12:36:07 mm: there are some common concerns in the comments 12:36:58 mm: any conflicts or overlaps? 12:37:46 q+ 12:37:53 mm: not sure about quarantine requirements 12:38:24 ack dape 12:38:32 dape: will we shift to online if there is a new quarantine? 12:38:45 mm: yes, that's the expectation 12:42:18 mm: could we add remote-only meetings at better time slots? 12:43:05 kaz: also thinking about holding a separate WoT remote meeting and focus on joint meetings at TPAC 12:43:56 mm: we should plan a demo 12:44:48 mm: what about a plugfest? also could have a virtual plugfest 12:45:00 topic: wide review 12:45:37 mm: finished the discovery explainer and created a branch for discovery 12:46:41 ... asked for a 2 week review of a discovery WD 12:47:10 ... privacy issue has been closed 12:47:29 ... any comments? 12:47:56 ... profile is still in flight 12:48:19 q+ 12:48:30 mm: some critical fixed still needed for discovery 12:49:18 dape: we have issues in TD around references, can we have informal references in a normative section, and what about references to documents that don't exist yet? 12:49:36 mm: we have similar problems in discovery 12:49:44 JKRhb has joined #wot 12:50:43 q+ 12:50:46 ack d 12:51:38 kaz: we can use W3C drafts if they are stable and rec track 12:52:37 s/stable and rec track/REC-track or Note, and stable enough/ 12:52:58 mm: informational references are not a problem 12:53:06 s/enough/enough. the question is rather those documents are stable or not./ 12:53:10 topic: action item review 12:53:33 mm: any Japanese CG updates? 12:54:13 kaz: there are 3 outreach events planned: publishing, security, ontology 12:54:32 ... smart building ontology is interesting 12:54:45 mm: linked building data group 12:55:09 mm: have 7, need 13 more supporting 12:55:22 mm: liaisons 12:55:51 ... Sebastian is organizing meetings with OPC-UA 12:56:39 ... notes on process 12:56:57 ... drive to an MOU 12:57:04 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1020 wot PR 1020 - Technical Objectives and Requirements for OPC UA/WoT Binding 12:57:23 ... please gather inputs 12:58:44 ... discovery is interesting 12:59:18 q+ 12:59:25 topic: Testfest 12:59:43 ... testfest next week focusing on TD and discovery 13:01:11 ... need the manual assertion inputs for things that aren't tested 13:01:29 topic: AOB? 13:01:53 kaz: do we want to have a wiki page for the testfest next week? 13:02:09 mm: could be confusing if we change things too much 13:02:25 s/topic: AOB?// 13:02:42 Fady has joined #wot 13:02:47 mm: no other business, adjourned 13:03:43 [adjourned] 13:03:49 rrsagent, make log public 13:03:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:03:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/01-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:12:20 present+ Jan_Romann 13:12:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:12:25 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/06/01-wot-minutes.html kaz 15:37:07 Zakim has left #wot 16:06:05 bkardell_ has joined #wot