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10:04:04 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture
10:04:18 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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10:09:33 <McCool> topic: minutes
10:09:50 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
10:09:50 <mlagally_> zakim, whi is on the call?
10:09:50 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mlagally_.
10:09:53 <McCool> scribenick: McCool
10:09:56 <mlagally_> zakim, who is on the call?
10:09:56 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
10:11:33 <McCool> approved
10:11:38 <McCool> topic: schedule
10:12:00 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#Architecture_May_19th.2C_2022
10:12:05 <McCool> ml: next week this date is father's day in germany
10:12:15 <McCool> mm: so why don't we use the use case call slot?
10:12:25 <McCool> ml: works for me
10:12:47 <McCool> ml: two hours?
10:13:12 <McCool> ml: will send out a doodle
10:13:27 <McCool> kaz: starting at use case starting slot, then going for two hours?
10:14:00 <McCool> mm: how about this time we just do one hour, then see if we can extend if people can clear their schedules
10:14:24 <McCool> kaz: too many two-hour calls is tiring
10:14:48 <McCool> ... but in the short term, given the schedule, maybe
10:14:59 <McCool> topic: contributions
10:15:14 <McCool> ml: we'll look at the schedule later
10:15:24 <McCool> subtopic: PR 737
10:15:39 <McCool> ml: binding info - need Ege
10:15:49 <McCool> subtopic: Pr 754
10:16:12 <McCool> ml: definition of orchestration
10:16:33 <McCool> ... using some language suggested by mm
10:16:40 <McCool> ml: can we merge?
10:16:42 <McCool> mm: sure
10:16:45 <McCool> ml: merging
10:16:53 <McCool> subtopic: PR 760
10:17:27 <McCool> ml: section levels for media types; resolves an issue, 675
10:17:40 <McCool> ... move it to a higher level so it is not buried
10:18:28 <kaz> i|section levels for|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/760 PR 760 - changing section level for MediaTypes|
10:18:28 <McCool> ml: does not change content, just moves a section close tag, moves media type one level up
10:18:34 <McCool> ... editorial
10:18:42 <McCool> mm: concur can be merged
10:18:44 <McCool> ml: merged
10:18:56 <McCool> subtopic: PR 761
10:19:09 <McCool> ml: description of virtual things in Ch 6
10:19:17 <kaz> q+
10:19:51 <McCool> ... should replace an ednote
10:22:42 <kaz> ack k
10:22:59 <McCool> ... although I see the ed note is still there... hmm.  let me quickly delete it
10:23:40 <McCool> ... done
10:25:06 <McCool> mm: let's review the text
10:25:12 <kaz> i/subtopic: PR 761/kaz: as I mentioned the other day, I still think it's a bit odd to have "Media Types" as a separate subsection within the section 6 which describes the concept of the WoT Architcture./
10:25:40 <kaz> i/subtopic: PR 761/mm: would suggest we create a new issue for that point./
10:25:47 <kaz> i/subtopic: PR 761/kaz: ok/
10:25:58 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
10:26:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:26:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:27:13 <kaz> i|description of v|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/761 PR 761 - replacing placeholder for virtual thing with content|
10:27:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:27:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:27:54 <McCool> mm: suggest we mention "service" to align with the current definition
10:27:58 <McCool> ml: ok
10:28:19 <McCool> ml: can be merge?
10:28:23 <McCool> mm: fine with me
10:28:30 <McCool> ml: merging
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10:28:44 <McCool> subtopic: PR 762
10:28:59 <McCool> ml: table style for device categories
10:29:18 <McCool> ... using "def" table style, consistent with others
10:29:21 <McCool> mm: ok
10:29:24 <McCool> ml: merging
10:29:31 <McCool> topic: Issues
10:29:59 <McCool> ml: have been tagging things I think we can close, and propose close
10:30:13 <McCool> ... close means I don't think we need a long discussion
10:30:25 <McCool> ... I also closed some that had clearly been addressed
10:30:36 <kaz> i|table style for|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/762 PR 762 - changing table style|
10:30:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:30:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:31:09 <kaz> chair: Lagally
10:31:10 <McCool> subtopic: issue 736
10:31:27 <McCool> ml: ege asked what "form context" is; we don't define that
10:31:38 <kaz> i|approved|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/05/12-wot-arch-minutes.html May-12|
10:31:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:31:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:32:49 <kaz> i|binding info - need Ege|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/737 PR 737 - Align binding related information|
10:33:12 <kaz> s/Pr 754/PR 754/
10:33:43 <kaz> i|definition of o|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/754 PR 754 - terminology for orchestration|
10:34:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:34:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:34:04 <McCool> ml: is clearly defined in CoRAL, which is cited
10:34:21 <kaz> i/as I mentioned/scribenick: kaz/
10:34:27 <McCool> mm: I think the only real issue is that the text is not 100% clear that the defn comes from CoRAL
10:34:32 <kaz> i/description of/scribenick: McCool/
10:34:37 <McCool> ml: ok, let's change that then
10:34:53 <McCool> mm: suggest adding "In CoRAL" to the start of the list
10:35:03 <McCool> ml: done; then we can close the issue
10:35:22 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 715
10:35:31 <McCool> ml: verify note on TD fragment
10:35:49 <kaz> i|ege asked what|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/736 Issue 736 - What does form context mean?|
10:36:27 <kaz> i|verify note on|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/715 Issue 715 - Verify note on TD Fragment|
10:38:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:38:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:38:14 <McCool> mm: would be ok with just deleting the note, the defn itself is ok
10:38:20 <McCool> ml: ok, let's do that
10:38:39 <McCool> ml: (deletes note after TD fragment)
10:38:51 <McCool> subtopic: Issue 681
10:39:33 <McCool> ml: document consistency checked
10:39:51 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Ege_Korkan
10:40:33 <McCool> ege: not ready to close
10:40:53 <McCool> mm: depends on other issues, we should list them all, then close this issue when they are resolved
10:41:11 <McCool> ml: ok, let's collect the issues that this one depends on
10:42:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:42:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:42:43 <McCool> ege: issue 634, 635
10:43:27 <kaz> i|document consistency checked|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/681 Issue 681 - Review architecture document consistency
10:43:28 <McCool> ... there is also issue 625, which is an assertion review, some are not dealt with yet
10:43:51 <McCool> ... also a closed issue 646, just reopened
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10:44:25 <Ege> -me https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/646
10:45:21 <McCool> mm: 625 mentions two assertions that we have separate issues for, so is redundant now, let's close
10:45:39 <kaz> q+
10:45:41 <McCool> ege: also PR 737
10:45:50 <McCool> ml: and issue 646
10:46:10 <kaz> ack k
10:47:06 <McCool> kaz: we could have a master issue list, or we could use labels (or both)
10:47:48 <McCool> ml: will make a checkbox list for now
10:47:59 <kaz> i|issue 634, 635|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/634 Issue 634 - arch-thing-bundling : Things MAY be bundled together with a Consumer to enable Thing-to-Thing interaction.|
10:48:27 <kaz> i|issue 634, 635|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/635 Issue 635 - arch-id-correlation : An identifier in the WoT Thing Description MUST allow for the correlation of multiple TDs representing the same original Thing or ultimately unique physical entity.|
10:49:35 <kaz> i|there is also issue 625|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/625 Issue 625 - Assertion review|
10:50:40 <kaz> i|also a closed issue 646|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/646 Issue 646 - [Index] Section structure, assertions, and issues|
10:50:59 <kaz> s|-me https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/646||
10:51:34 <kaz> i|also PR 737|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/737 PR 737 - Align binding related information|
10:52:13 <kaz> rrsaggent, draft minutes
10:52:26 <kaz> s/rrsaggent, draft minutes//
10:52:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:52:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/19-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:55:38 <McCool> mm: regarding 625, I think we should just remove that assertion, it conflicts with privacy, use of uuidv4 in profiles, and there is no mechanism supporting it in TD
10:55:48 <McCool> ml: ok, will assign you then
10:56:28 <McCool> ml: ok, regarding "things MAY be bundled" -> has been resolved already
10:57:49 <McCool> topic: PR 737
10:58:19 <McCool> ege: won't have time to update
10:58:29 <McCool> mm: if we leave it out, will it cause a big problem?
11:00:24 <McCool> ege: no, and I can also make a simple PR to deal with the things that were deleted
11:00:27 <McCool> topic: WD
11:00:45 <kaz> s/topic: PR 737/topic: PR 734 (revisited)/
11:00:46 <McCool> mm: don't necessarily need to call it a CR candidate, but we should publish a WD update at least
11:01:02 <kaz> i|won't have time|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/737 PR 737 - Align binding related information|
11:01:32 <McCool> proposal: resolution to publish a WD update based on the current editor's draft
11:02:21 <McCool> proposal: resolution to publish a WD update based on the current editor's draft using branch architecture-1.1-pre-cr-wd
11:02:28 <mlagally_> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/tree/architecture-1.1-pre-cr-wd
11:03:19 <McCool> proposal: publish a WD update based on the current editor's draft using branch architecture-1.1-pre-cr-wd one week from today
11:03:38 <McCool> resolution: publish a WD update based on the current editor's draft using branch architecture-1.1-pre-cr-wd one week from today
11:03:52 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/767
11:05:19 <kaz> i|767|topic: AOB?|
11:05:52 <kaz> ek: just created
11:05:52 <McCool> ege: 767 replaces 737, just deletes assertions
11:06:01 <kaz> s/ek: just created//
11:06:18 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:06:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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