IRC log of rqtf on 2022-05-18
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 18 May 2022
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- chair: jasonjgw
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- present+
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- agenda+ Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
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- agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools.
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- agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Joint Working Group meetings at TPAC 2022.
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous
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- agenda 6 = Miscellaneous topics.
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- agenda?
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Synchronization Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- jasonjgw: Michael Cooper is working on editorial changes
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- jasonjgw: Working on messaging
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- janina: Minor correction: Michael was thinking more about additional headings and other changes to make the content more digetsable
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- janina: Good to get this fixed first before the CfC is issued
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- janina: Otherwise we should be continuing to advance to a W3C "Statement" status, which is new
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- jasonjgw: We do not expect the editorial changes to take that long
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- jasonjgw: Communications are underway with relevant groups
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- jasonjgw: Leave in agenda for next week
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
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- jasonjgw: Wiki page has been updated with distinctions and central issues
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- scott_h: Began to search the research literature, but so far have not found much additional materials
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- jasonjgw: At the moment, the best strategy is to keep adding to the wiki page
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:13:24 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Updated working draft was published
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- jasonjgw: No comments yet
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- jasonjgw: We do still have some open issues
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- jasonjgw: Will look at the open issues
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- Joshue108: Some of the COGA issues are still open
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- janina: Will ping COGA about additional clarifications that are needed
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- janina: A label stating that further clarification is pending might be good
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- janina: Pointing them to the specific github issues could be good
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- Joshue108: Will review the issues where we still need clarification and will get back to Janina and Jason
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 5 -- Joint Working Group meetings at TPAC 2022. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:22:21 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Not positive if we have enough critical mass on topics to propose joint meetings
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- janina: Maybe a Wednesday session on the NAUR?
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- jasonjgw: That is a possibility
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- janina: Perhaps the collaborative editing tools?
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- jasonjgw: That seems like a good potential
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- jasonjgw: CAPTCHA might be another topic if we have enough done by that point
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- janina: May need to look at furthering speech tagging aside from the language tag to allow for things like a child's voice
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- janina: The current specs do not hot handle this
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- janina: These issues connect Internationalization and Accessibility needs, so potentially useful for joint meeting discussion
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- janina: For example, input from a new community group looking at accessibility needs for children
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- Joshue108: The FAST group also met with this community group
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- jasonjgw: There is also the work being done in the Math Working Group on the new MathML spec
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- agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up
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- jasonjgw: One comment came in on Accessibility of Remote Meetings
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- jasonjgw: This may point to some ambiguity
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- Raja: It is challenging as children's voices change over time - as do people with speech disabilities, but definitely something to be noted
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- Raja: handling these edge cases benefits everyone
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- janina: Yes...we need to do more in the way of specifying aspects which currently are not supported in the current specs
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- Raja: e.g. steve gleason's ALS and collaboration with MS -- to save speech samples and use these as his speech declined
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- Joshue108: To Jason: About neural-networks - further input?
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- jasonjgw: New developments from Google and others are moving toward using a neural network for the entire TTS process
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- jasonjgw: COQI - demonstrated the ability to record one's own voice and use that to program TTS
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- janina: That was also mentioned my Mark Hakkinen
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- https://coqui.ai/
- 13:41:45 [SteveNoble]
- jasonjgw: Would be good to look at their tooling
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- jasonjgw: Also announcements from Google and Microsoft show a lot of new development in both TTS and speech dictation
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- Joshue108: Upcoming panel talk at ICCHP to discuss cognitive disability connections to immersive environments
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- janina: COGA is planning to meet at ICCHP so that would be a good place for coordinating
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