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16:03:10 <Zakim> Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference
16:03:11 <ted> scribenick: ted
16:03:13 <ted> Chair: Ted
16:03:18 <ted> Present+ Ted
16:03:32 <ted> Present+ Ulf, Adnan, Erik, Carine, Ashish
16:03:40 <ted> Topic: BMW implementation of VISS
16:04:48 <ted> Adnan: timeline not set but we're working on it. meed to get review and go through process
16:04:56 <ted> Ulf: example implementation report would help
16:05:15 <ted> Ted: sure we have from v1 but better examples
16:06:48 <ted> Carine: you can find many examples linked to any specification that reached PR or REC under https://www.w3.org/TR
16:07:02 <ted> … some are more generated based on test suite results
16:09:21 <ted> Topic: Features wishlist
16:09:32 <ted> Ulf: how can we use this exercise to reach more people?
16:09:51 <ted> … perhaps send to the mailing list or start a wiki?
16:09:58 <ted> … issues on github
16:18:49 <ted> Ted outlines mix of github for tracking actual, create a survey and reach out to our large mailing list (many more lurkers than active on call)
16:19:53 <ted> Adnan: for us, less features would be preferred
16:24:11 <ted> Ulf: one idea is the notion of being able to push jobs to the server, more complex than what can be done with the filters
16:26:00 <ted> Erik: is the idea sending a job down to the server or being able to call a pre-defined?
16:26:03 <ted> Ulf: both
16:26:51 <ted> Erik: reason for asking is it is staring to sound similar to VSC service
16:26:58 <ted> … especially wiht pre-defined
16:27:19 <ted> Ulf: we would want to avoid conflicting with that work
16:27:48 <ted> Peter: there is growing attention towards Matter, a home automation standard
16:28:00 <ted> … it would be good to have interoperability with it
16:30:54 <ted> Ted: nearby is the PoC BMW did with W3C WoT and VSS
16:31:19 <ted> … at a higher level need for a technical steering committee within COVESA/W3C
16:36:41 <ted> … see jobs useful for multiple purposes
16:36:55 <ted> Adnan: we have to be careful in being too wide in different use cases
16:37:20 <ted> … at AMM around VISS we see it as an API gateway but internally do not expect it to be the back end
16:37:51 <ted> … for lightweight browser applications it is useful or gateway to systems
16:38:16 <ted> … approach is different for different use cases
16:48:51 <ted> Ted: all that said, should continue with plan outlight for getting input for v2
16:48:56 <ted> Ulf: maybe we should be looking at the bigger picture instead
16:49:06 <ted> Adnan: multiple approaches are fine
16:49:53 <ted> … we need to consider outsiders taking a first look at this. the more a solution tries to address, the more wary I am of it. better is specific purpose some times
16:50:03 <ted> Ulf: agree it is possible to over engineer something
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