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Personalization Task Force Teleconference

16 May 2022

Attendees

Present
becky, CharlesL, Janina, janina_, Lionel_Wolberger, Lisa, Matthew_Atkinson, mike_beganyi, Roy, sharon
Regrets
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Chair
sharon
Scribe
mike_beganyi

Meeting minutes

zaki, next item

Announce that next meeting will be on IRC Channel 'adapt'

sharon: as of next week the IRC channel will be Adapt

janina: page needs to be updated. that's for Roy

sharon: Roy, can you update?

Roy: I will update

CharlesL: also the mailing list has -personalization in it

janina: will create a new archive. our Wiki will have to point out that we operated as Personalization. they're archived in a different place

Roy: will need to confirm changing the e-mail

CharlesL: the changes to github, we'll be in our specs pointing to new repos on github, right?

Roy: I think so. github will be changed by public list document

Roy: will include all URL and feedback

janina: update working draft with all changes then advance to CR

Inclusive Design 24 (Matthew)

<Matthew_Atkinson> Details: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2022May/0010.html

Matthew_Atkinson: widely known series of talks. they archive the videos. would be a good opportunity to let people know about what we're doing

Matthew_Atkinson: present 30 minutes of Adapt and/or some APA work (XR, CAPTCHA, maturity, etc.)

janina: two questions. when's the conference?

Matthew_Atkinson: 22nd of September I believe

janina: what outcomes are we seeking?

Matthew_Atkinson: help with wide review of Adapt and encourage implementation, general publicizing of work we're doing

janina: is it typical for the conference to have prospective work? that's the stage we're in currently

Matthew_Atkinson: timing is potentially difficult. up to them to decide whether it's worthwhile.

janina: a little nervous about prospective versus the ability to implement after learning about it during the event

sharon: anyone you could talk to with those questions in mind, Matthew? or propose and see if a presentation is accepted?

Matthew_Atkinson: can always contact and ask if appropriate content. would need to decide whether we're going to go ahead with the content

janina: seems like more of a general APA opportunity as opposed to Adapt in particular. need to consider the outcomes of the presentation and what we want from it

Matthew_Atkinson: don't think an hour presentation is necessary

janina: if purpose is to introduce people to APA/W3C and what our current work is, then it becomes at least an APA if not W3C/WAI presentation

sharon: what to propose to move forward with this

janina: need more concrete sense of outcomes and what the conference is

janina: just unclear as to what we're presenting or leaving with after the presentation

Lionel_Wolberger: could do an hour if we discuss other APA work (COGA, Pronunciation, Adapt)

<Matthew_Atkinson> Abstract from the site: Inclusive Design 24 (#id24) is a free 24-hour online event for the global community. It celebrates inclusive design and shares knowledge and ideas from analogue to digital, from design to development, from planners to practitioners, and everything and everyone in between.

Matthew_Atkinson: will talk about this outside of this TF

sharon: have you do that in APA call tomorrow

APA Adapt announcement and messaging - https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2022May/0002.html

janina: I will look at it because we have a meeting that will include Shawn. want to get her involved sooner than later

sharon: updating to Adapt, added the dates, updates from previous reviews, should be the same thing we reviewed before

TPAC 12-16 September 2022 - Plan meetings; remind chairs to fill in the form before 31 May:   https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/LogisticsTPAC2022/ sharon]

sharon: planning, form to be filled out

<Matthew_Atkinson> This is the page the TF needs to add to: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022

janina: Matthew and I will do that sometime between 18th and 25th. we need each TF to decide whether the TF wants to work together or take time during TPAC to work on something

janina: COGA plans a relatively low profile, they did a lot last year and it was good

Matthew_Atkinson: link to APA wiki page. we need to fill that in as a TF.

sharon: our part is to decide who we're meeting with and presentation

Matthew_Atkinson: do we need to request a meeting with WHATWG?

janina: as soon as we pass CR we will book a meeting with them

janina: all we need is a reserved prefix

sharon: for right now, no meetings, but we will think about it

Adapt chairs, approve the Roy PR regarding renaming specification docs from Personalization to Adapt (and adding the caption) https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/pull/205

Roy: can put render link in comments

janina: would be helpful as a common practice.

sharon: Lionel we need to make sure everything looks OK

janina: do an upated working draft with WAI-Adapt to move forward to CR

sharon: will merge when reviewed

PR status on issues 203 and 204 (merge) -  https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/203,  https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/204

<sharon> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/pull/207

sharon: start with what Matthew worked on

Matthew_Atkinson: 207, symbol examples. brief changes mentioned in PR notes.

Matthew_Atkinson: changed cuptea.png cup.png instead, used symbol for cup

Matthew_Atkinson: fixed indentation, kept example of conjugating agenda. changed rules in spec. allowed spaces around "+" symbol. not really going to work for parsing.

sharon: I see single values

Matthew_Atkinson: will get Lisa to look at this anyway.

janina: this final resolution is that we need more eyes on this and that's what we get during CR

janina: questions about meaning should not prevent us from going to CR. will prevent us from going to PR if we don't remediate during CR

janina: I am not troubled by this. we've done the best we can and will solicit more feedback during CR

Matthew_Atkinson: any thoughts on how I've marked up the "+" sign, Roy?

Roy: I think it's OK for you to fix that.

sharon: sounds like we've merged that, right

Matthew_Atkinson: yes

sharon: Lisa can look during CR

sharon: looks like we merged 203 and 204. other things to do for those two issues?

janina: have to get back to James Craig. that was an action on me. would prefer to wait until after WD

Matthew_Atkinson: PR from me. 206. talked about how we need to allay some fears about complication of rendering. did a PR to implement that issue so that it's in the same area of the document

Matthew_Atkinson: reads Editor's Note

sharon: rest of examples in PRs. should we merge the editor's note?

janina: let's go ahead and merge it

sharon: link directly to this section so whoever wants to review can do so. then we decide about changes to be made, then we can make them

Matthew_Atkinson: gonna send a link for ease of discovery

janina: James will get us a Safari implementation we hoep

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