IRC log of silver-conf on 2022-05-12
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- 15:43:12 [janina]
- Meeting: Silver Conformance Options Subgroup
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- Date 12 May 2022
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- Chair: Janina
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- agenda?
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- Agenda+ Agenda Review & Administrative Items
- 15:43:37 [janina]
- agenda+ Continued Discussion https://raw.githack.com/w3c/silver/use-cases-apr22-js/use-cases/index.html
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- agenda+ Be Done
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/12-silver-conf-minutes.html janina
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- present+
- 16:08:34 [Azlan]
- present+
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- scribe+ Azlan
- 16:09:01 [GreggVan]
- present+
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Administrative Items -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:10:24 [maryjom]
- present+
- 16:10:29 [GreggVan]
- q+
- 16:10:35 [jeanne]
- present+
- 16:11:03 [Azlan]
- ack GreggVan
- 16:11:05 [janina]
- ack gr
- 16:11:51 [Azlan]
- GreggVan: have pulled the document into a Word doc and will share his updates
- 16:13:08 [Azlan]
- zakim, next item
- 16:13:08 [Zakim]
- agendum 2 -- Continued Discussion https://raw.githack.com/w3c/silver/use-cases-apr22-js/use-cases/index.html -- taken up [from janina]
- 16:13:44 [Azlan]
- jeanne: Have made the changes requested 28th April
- 16:13:54 [jeanne]
- https://raw.githack.com/w3c/silver/use-cases-apr22-js/use-cases/index.html#situation-3
- 16:15:36 [GreggVan]
- +1
- 16:15:40 [janina]
- q?
- 16:16:50 [GreggVan]
- q+
- 16:18:07 [Azlan]
- ack GreggVan
- 16:18:52 [Azlan]
- GreggVan: Clarifying with "normative" is a good improvement to technical standards on example 3.1
- 16:22:05 [Azlan]
- jeanne: [continues to read through the amendments as requested 28th April]
- 16:23:32 [Azlan]
- GreggVan: all steps in the process should be accessible not just the submit part
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- suggest referencing WCAG 2.1 & 2.2 for word-smithing
- 16:25:45 [Azlan]
- jeanne: WIll make it clearer that all steps in the process must be accessible
- 16:30:24 [GreggVan]
- q+
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- ack GreggVan
- 16:39:27 [janina]
- q?
- 16:40:59 [maryjom]
- q+
- 16:41:07 [Azlan]
- shadi: Commenting on Jeanne's amendments. With regards to critical errors are we getting too detailed? What is the right balance for level of detail?
- 16:41:18 [janina]
- ack ma
- 16:41:23 [Azlan]
- ack maryjom
- 16:42:12 [Azlan]
- Agrees that a generic statement and letting the group work out the specifics can be better.
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- janina: we will have to carefully consider that over time and across different disability perspectives
- 16:43:31 [Azlan]
- maryjom: Exactly - being more generic might be more helpful at this point
- 16:43:48 [janina]
- q?
- 16:43:49 [Azlan]
- janina: Examples rather than an exhaustive list
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- GreggVan: Suggests "a few of the many examples..."
- 16:44:54 [Azlan]
- topic: greggvan comments on use cases document
- 16:45:19 [janina]
- q?
- 16:47:58 [Azlan]
- addition of "equivalent facilitation and limitations on application" to the problem statement
- 16:50:28 [janina]
- q?
- 16:51:02 [Azlan]
- also "... more technical in nature and can and should be addressed in WGAC and need to be addressed by policy/regulation setters or others..."
- 16:53:02 [Azlan]
- Under approach and structure addition of " ...but not limited to..."
- 16:53:10 [janina]
- q?
- 16:53:44 [jeanne]
- q+ to talk about database
- 16:54:03 [Azlan]
- "How accompanying guidance" amended to How guidance documents that accompany technical standards...(including advice to policy setting bodies)"
- 16:54:09 [janina]
- ack jea
- 16:54:09 [Zakim]
- jeanne, you wanted to talk about database
- 16:54:09 [Azlan]
- ack jeanne
- 16:54:58 [Azlan]
- jeanne: minor point to keep in mind the direction we want to put informative and normative into the database to be able to bring it all up together
- 16:55:43 [Azlan]
- GreggVan: thats great but a tool which cannot be the standard. will update to include "tools" as well as documents
- 16:59:13 [Azlan]
- Key Terminology: first bullet point added "directly" to read "providing content dorectly to others"
- 17:00:26 [Azlan]
- Under example 1.2 deleted all except the last bullet of How technical standards might contribute to addressing this situation
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- To resume this topic next week
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been janina, shadi, Azlan, GreggVan, maryjom, jeanne
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