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20:05:12 <RiccardoAlbertoni> present +
20:05:25 <DaveBrowning> rrsagent, make minutes public
20:05:25 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', DaveBrowning.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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20:06:01 <Caroline_> Last meeting meeting https://www.w3.org/2022/04/26-dxwg-minutes
20:06:13 <Caroline_> s/meeting/minutes
20:06:22 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
20:06:28 <DaveBrowning> +1
20:06:35 <Nobu_OGURA> +1
20:06:39 <Caroline_> +0 was not there
20:06:43 <DaveBrowning> propose: approve minutes of last meeting
20:06:57 <DaveBrowning> proposed: approve minutes of last meeting
20:07:10 <DaveBrowning> resolved: approve minutes of last meeting
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20:08:06 <DaveBrowning> topic: DCAT update
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20:08:25 <AndreaPerego> meeting: DXWG Plenary
20:08:28 <Caroline_> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:08:34 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.05.10
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20:08:45 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1506.
20:08:56 <RiccardoAlbertoni> FAST Checklist https://w3c.github.io/apa/fast/checklist.html
20:08:58 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: We have produced the draft check list as the issue above
20:09:16 <DaveBrowning> ... intention is accessibility is not a big concern
20:09:57 <DaveBrowning> ... as a consequence most responses are that DCAt doesn't supply these
20:10:18 <DaveBrowning> ... Some additional detail provided eg in question 5
20:11:39 <DaveBrowning> ... but the checklist focus is  not really relevant
20:12:38 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: Other questions where we are interested in input/contribution is q9,  and also more generally
20:13:11 <DaveBrowning> ... Does anyone have any comments or remarks?  Or can we submit this to the accessibility group?
20:13:17 <Caroline_> q?
20:13:51 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Thanks for that.
20:14:37 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:14:48 <Caroline_> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:14:54 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: I don't have much background with this process but this looks like a good response
20:15:32 <Pierre-Antoine> s/with this process/as team contact/
20:15:52 <Caroline_> q+
20:15:58 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: Really the checklist shapes the dialog with the specialist, so its more start of a conversation - at least as I understand it
20:16:14 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: Indeed - that's right.
20:16:56 <Caroline_> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:17:01 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
20:17:15 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Should we reach out to the experts?
20:17:35 <DaveBrowning> ... is this the right time?
20:18:25 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: The guidelines say to do the checklist and then add specific keyword in github which will trigger the involvement of the experts
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20:19:09 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: Moving to the other checklists...
20:19:14 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1504
20:19:26 <DaveBrowning> ... internationalisation is at above link
20:19:27 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/International/i18n-drafts/techniques/shortchecklist
20:20:49 <DaveBrowning> ... also for this check list most is not relevant. The ones that are are the direction of text indication etc.  DCAt follows other standards which
20:21:27 <Pierre-Antoine> q+
20:21:36 <DaveBrowning> ... are partial.  If RDF provides a standard solution we'd follow it (or try to)
20:22:49 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/959
20:22:51 <DaveBrowning> ... A more specifically relevant issue is the specification of language (BCP codes etc) where there was previous discussion for DCAT 2
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20:24:12 <DaveBrowning> ... Addison made a suggestion that we could perhaps adopt - but I'm not sure if this group would be happy with it.  Further discussion is in the issue
20:24:48 <Caroline_> ack Pierre-Antoine
20:26:19 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: On the direction issue - the json-ld work didn't manage to get significant agreement.  Perhaps the DCAT spec could do some examples in json-ld
20:26:30 <DaveBrowning> ... using these ideas?
20:26:51 <DaveBrowning> ... to indicate direction.
20:27:48 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: We can consider doing so - but perhaps the priority would be low
20:28:13 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Anything more on this one?
20:28:47 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: We can discuss it in the next DCAt meeting unless there is a strong opinion from the plenary
20:30:12 <DaveBrowning> ... Question - we haven't documented any response to the detailed questions in the expanded checklist.  Is that okay?
20:31:28 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/TR/international-specs/#locale
20:32:36 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: For example each short item expands. We have treated it as optional.  Is this okay?
20:33:12 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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20:33:44 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: The goal of the questionaire is more to start the conversation - if they want more they will ask
20:34:09 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: DaveBrowning
20:34:13 <DaveBrowning> DaveBrowning: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1507
20:34:19 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: AndreaPerego
20:34:31 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: The last is about security & privacy.
20:35:22 <AndreaPerego> ... For DCAT2 there was a shorter checklist, and more discussion.
20:36:01 <AndreaPerego> ... In any case, what RiccardoAlbertoni said about the other checklists applies to most of the questions.
20:36:41 <AndreaPerego> ... The point is that the vocabulary by itself has no security or privacy issues.
20:37:06 <AndreaPerego> ... Rather, they may raise depending on which information is published by data providers.
20:37:57 <AndreaPerego> ... So the possible problems are on the implementation side.
20:38:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:39:02 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q-
20:39:06 <AndreaPerego> Caroline_: Thanks, DaveBrowning. Any questions?
20:40:26 <DaveBrowning> AndreaPerego: For TAG, there is no check list.  Not clear what questions we should address...  Is there any guidance
20:40:36 <DaveBrowning> scribenick: DaveBrowning
20:41:18 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: About the TAG checklist, the problem is that there is no checklist.
20:41:23 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: I will contact plh...
20:41:39 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: DaveBrowning
20:41:49 <DaveBrowning> AndreaPerego: Or if someone attened the next DCAT meeting.....
20:42:01 <Pierre-Antoine> @plh any guidance on how to deal with the TAG review? there is no checklist for this one?
20:42:43 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +q
20:42:56 <Caroline_> ack RiccardoAlbertoni
20:43:18 <DaveBrowning> RiccardoAlbertoni: To confirm - we can progress with the current checklist....?  <no objections>
20:43:26 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Agreed
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20:43:53 <DaveBrowning> topic: Next charter
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20:44:13 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Is there an update?
20:44:50 <DaveBrowning> ...  Is there any feedback from anyone on this?
20:46:45 <Pierre-Antoine> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/proposed-dx-wg-charter.html
20:46:58 <Pierre-Antoine> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2022AprJun/0023.html
20:48:59 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: There was a specific suggestion - I'll forward this later
20:49:44 <DaveBrowning> ... no comment on contents.  Would be good if this group made sure they have raised any issues
20:50:29 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: There was one discussion on IETF....
20:51:44 <DaveBrowning> ... charter mentioned IETF work that was marked as expired, so the charter was potentially misleading
20:52:51 <DaveBrowning> ... (concerns profile negotiation)
20:53:45 <AndreaPerego> s/AndreaPerego: About the TAG checklist, the problem is that there is no checklist.//
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20:54:31 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: Should check with Philippe that its been done...
20:54:57 <AndreaPerego> s/Or if someone attened the next DCAT meeting/Or if someone attended the next DCAT meeting/
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20:56:01 <AndreaPerego> s/propose: approve minutes of last meeting//
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20:56:05 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: No reply to earlier request to Philippe re: TAG, so I'll follow up.
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20:56:49 <DaveBrowning> Caroline_: When does the charter vote close?
20:57:01 <DaveBrowning> Pierre-Antoine: 26th May
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21:06:51 <plh> sorry, I was scribing the AC :(
21:07:48 <plh> on asking the TAG for review: https://tag.w3.org/workmode/
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