s in the banner which casaues the problem with screen reader. 18:14:24 ... the second div will be the paragraph tag instead. 18:14:39 with Shawn's template change. 18:15:29 https://github.com/w3c/wai-minimal-header-design/issues/96 18:16:53 steve will work on the issue 28. 18:17:08 shawn: then we can add that to QA list. 18:18:31 Topic: Create page footers for example pages #32 18:20:15 mck:how the date is updated in the footer? 18:22:32 mck: we can correct the date later in the footer. 18:23:12 shawn: I think it will be fine for now. 18:23:36 Topic: landmark issue #46 18:23:53 mck: it is not trivial work to be done before the release 18:24:02 but links are working 18:24:32 Topic: Move "read me first" content, issue 48 18:25:17 read me first page: https://deploy-preview-62--wai-aria-practices2.netlify.app/fundamentals/read-me-first/ 18:25:40 https://deploy-preview-62--wai-aria-practices2.netlify.app/fundamentals/ 18:26:21 https://deploy-preview-63--wai-aria-practices2.netlify.app/fundamentals/ 18:27:04 MarkMcCarthy has joined #aria-apg 18:27:44 shawn: feedback on the image of person pointing 18:28:10 ... we prefer not to use any hand gestures in the image to accomodate different cultures 18:31:05 scribe: MarkMcCarthy 18:31:22 Matt_King: I looked at the readme, content wise it looks all good 18:31:57 Rich_Noah: Matt, is "Readme" different than "read me first?" 18:32:14 Matt_King: no.. 18:32:38 Rich_Noah: preview 63 is different from preview 62, just so you know -- they point to different things 18:32:56 Matt_King: the standalone read me first page looks to be right 18:33:08 shawn: looking at preview 62, everything looks correct. 18:34:15 shawn: when do we expect all these PRs to get merged into main? 18:34:23 Rich_Noah: current plan is on the 11th (tomorrow - wednesday) 18:34:57 shawn: to confirm, we're gonna get an okay to publish on the 11th; we can publish on the 12th, then Bocoup will be available for fixes after that? 18:35:10 Rich_Noah: yes - I didn't see an ask for our availability but we are available 18:35:37 Matt_King: we'll do the quiet launch thursday the 12th at 9am ET 18:36:03 Matt_King: so tomorrow, all the things we're reviewing now get merged (in the review column of the project) -- right? 18:36:18 Rich_Noah: that's the plan, waiting on a couple PRs to be created for what's already in progress, but ye 18:36:23 s/but ye/but yes 18:37:12 shawn: if the email was missed - what i'm most interested in gettin done first is the underlying template and site-wide things. smaller things can be fixed later on 18:38:23 shawn: basically, if we need to tweak the image, or make smaller text/HTML changes, we can do that later on. But let's get the bigger things done first so we can get tests going 18:39:11 Matt_King: so the other issues in the review column, about the headings on the fundamentals pages; help improve; create email; including apg in the title tag -- these all look good to _me_ 18:39:40 Matt_King: issue 49, about fixing broken links, those all look working to me now. i didn't find any other issues related to links etc. 18:39:57 Matt_King: seems like the only thing we're really waiting on is issue 96 18:40:32 Matt_King: moving the ToC to the right side, are we coordinated on this? 18:40:32 Topic: issie 24 18:40:40 s/issie/issue/ 18:40:44 shawn: yes, steve said he updated the template. so once we have the new one, that should be fixed 18:40:51 https://github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/issues/24 18:40:57 Matt_King: rich, do you know when a PR will be ready? 18:41:18 Rich_Noah: should be within the body of work that should be updated by end of the day today 18:42:37 Topic: Issue 66 18:42:46 Matt_King: removing obsolete content from the about page - will this be in a PR today? 18:42:47 https://github.com/w3c/wai-aria-practices/issues/66 18:42:49 Rich_Noah: i expect it to be 18:42:59 Remove obsolete content from About page and move list of editors under acknowledgements #66 18:43:20 mat 18:43:23 s/mat/ 18:43:30 Matt_King: is there a PR associated with this? 18:43:33 Rich_Noah: preview 62 18:44:05 Matt_King: i still see editors listed at the top, abstract, etc 18:44:14 Matt_King: the new intro content isn't in here yet 18:44:33 Rich_Noah: it's not complete yet 18:45:09 Jem: are we removing the major contributors to 1.1 section? 18:45:25 Matt_King: i may edit some of _that_ content 18:45:41 Matt_King: right now, under the heading "About" we have the list of all versions - that's going away 18:45:48 Matt_King: editors will go under acknowledgements 18:45:57 Matt_King: information about feedback will be removed, as well as abstract 18:46:07 Matt_King: intro is staying, but will be modified with the content in the main branch 18:46:17 Matt_King: status of the document will be gone too 18:46:28 Matt_King: so there will be 4 subheadings 18:46:53 Matt_King: i'm not sure how cleaned up everything under acknowledgements will be on launch day. it won't be inaccurate, but maybe not polished 18:46:55 shawn: right 18:47:11 shawn: that's easy to update 18:47:36 shawn: rich, we probably want to have the change history and acknowledgements collapsed by default - we have a standard control for that 18:48:05 Matt_King: after launch I want to talk about the about page design. i imagine it being lots more like fundamentals and practices pages, linking off to more content 18:49:15 Matt_King: i love the way the top level nav got sorted out 18:49:26 shawn: i'm not sure it's been propogated _everywhere_ yet though 18:49:54 Matt_King: we have 6 in the next up section 18:50:11 Matt_King: 55 - can be done later without causing issues, right? 18:50:12 shawn: yep 18:51:00 Matt_King: 52, this is a template one... but it's done right? yeah, labelled feedback, so it's done, in preview 62 18:51:53 Matt_King: issue 70, I'm anxious to test this on Thursday to see if it might be a Netlify thing. 18:52:09 Matt_King: my experience with JAWS, VO, Narrator in Chrome and Safari is not good 18:52:29 Matt_King: JAWS doesn't activate those links on the first try 18:53:01 Matt_King: narrator is the same on chrome. Safari, if you read with the next item key, content isn't read 18:53:39 Matt_King: if you strip down to the basic HTML, removing everything from head (except content type), problems disappear. so that's why I'm thinking it's related to netlify 18:54:08 Rich_Noah: alex could reproduce this locally, so it's not netlify. he's looking at it, trying to isolate. can't promise anything today 18:54:51 Matt_King: i opened a chrome bug (linked) - if we can isolate the cause, let's add that to the chrome bug. it feels like a browser bug, chrome and safari (webkit) have problems. firefox, though, is fine 18:55:05 Matt_King: could be that Firefox is behind and hasn't broken something 18:55:09 Matt_King: (yet) 18:55:42 Matt_King: testing the href on the WAI link, trivial? 18:55:47 shawn: just a test ;) 18:55:56 Matt_King: URI is all good? 18:55:57 shawn: yep 18:56:02 shawn: what about issue 60 though? 18:56:41 Matt_King: is 60 in the next up column? 18:56:42 Adjust primary navigation to remove "fundamentals" conflict and improve link/title consistency #60 18:56:56 Matt_King: that's a definite P0 for launch, but could be done on thurs or friday, right? 18:57:10 Rich_Noah: yes - we just haven't started yet. other things to do, but it should be simple 18:57:17 shawn: if it's just a text change that's no problem 18:57:56 s3ththompson: i wanted to ask - would your respective institutions be interested in teweeting or otherwise sharing? 18:58:03 Jem: sure 18:58:05 MarkMcCarthy: yep! 18:58:11 Matt_King: i want to put our comms person on it 18:58:18 s3ththompson: we're hoping to have something to you tomorrow Matt 18:58:55 shawn: there's a google doc with our recent work on that 18:59:05 s3ththompson: i'll send an email to James to see about Adobe 18:59:06 https://docs.google.com/document/d/146FG-FQybx9QjV2sihqrCNlm_1_W8UEsUHgfnQl55TA/edit#heading=h.9xdnwvk79jf8 18:59:20 s3ththompson: oh right - I've got this 18:59:28 shawn: i did make some updates, but this is the latest i know of 18:59:51 Matt_King: this is exciting!! it's really happening!! 18:59:57 Matt_King: proud of everyone, great work 19:00:11 zakim, who is here? 19:00:11 Present: shawn, Rich_Noah, Jem, curt, Mark, Matt_King, CurtBellew 19:00:13 On IRC I see MarkMcCarthy, jamesn, CurtBellew, Matt_King, Rich_Noah, shawn, RRSAgent, Zakim, MichaelC, Jem, zcorpan, s3ththompson, jongunderson, github-bot, ZoeBijl, trackbot 19:00:16 RRSAgent, make minutes 19:00:16 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/10-aria-apg-minutes.html MarkMcCarthy 19:00:32 present+ s3ththompson 19:00:39 RRSAgent, make minutes 19:00:39 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/10-aria-apg-minutes.html MarkMcCarthy