IRC log of maturity on 2022-05-04

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne
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'Meeting: Maturity Model
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chair: Sheri
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Meeting: Maturity Model
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Topic: Training Dimension
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SBH: Jake, do we include the training in each individual dimension or just link to the training dimension directly?
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JA: I think training applies everywhere
15:16:06 [sheri_b-h]
All training pertaining to this dimension should be reflected in the Knowledge and Skills dimension
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SBH: I propose putting a sentence in each dimension
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Jeff: I don't think we should have definitions in line.
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SBH: Hold that thought, we are going to finish the training topic first
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SBH: Mary Jo proposes that if you don't have training, then you are a zero
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JEff: In Knowledge & Skills we could put in a statement that people know that it is general, then we could put individual training detail in each dimension. Then KNowleddge & Skills could be for the organization as a whole.
15:19:51 [jeanne]
SBH: We have not voted in favor of this in the past, because of the repetition.
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... we need to be consistent. It can't be both.
15:21:18 [sheri_b-h]
Training programs have been established and ongoing to ensure necessary skills for this dimension.
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(that was Jeff's proposal)
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SBH: All the details about what is required for training should be in the Knowledge & Skills section
15:23:02 [JakeAbma]
q+ off topic, link to Zoom
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Topic: Placement of definitions
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SBH: Janina, can we have multiple glossaries
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JSa: APA is proposing a WAI-wide glossary. None of this is fully decided.
15:24:38 [jeanne]
... it's a different direction that what you are asking
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SBH: I am proposing to put all the definitions in a top definitions section, and then we can have a local definitions section
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JSa: Or you can cross-reference them
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Topic: Editing Changes
15:26:17 [jeanne]
SBH: I made a lot of editing changes and put everything in alphabetical order
15:26:31 [sheri_b-h]
Modifications or adjustments made to the environment, technology, or equipment that enables an individual with a disability to gain access and successfully complete tasks.
15:27:41 [jeanne]
JK: How do we define environment? Would going to an HR person with a request count as environment.
15:28:43 [jeanne]
SBH: It doesn't matter if it is environment. If the accommodation is having the florescent lightbulbs removed, it is still an accommodation.
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JK: I think it still difficult to understand
15:29:56 [sheri_b-h]
Modifications or adjustments made to technology, or equipment that enables an individual with a disability to gain access and successfully complete tasks.
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Modifications or adjustments that enables an individual with a disability to gain access and successfully complete tasks.
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SBH: because people work from home, it's a mess talking aobut environment accommodations
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JK: Could we say "
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... human intervention or human support"
15:31:27 [sheri_b-h]
Modifications or adjustments that may require human intervention that enables an individual with a disability to gain access and successfully complete tasks.
15:31:47 [maryjom]
Reasonable accommodation is any change to a job or a work environment that is needed to enable a person with a disability to apply, perform and advance in job functions, or undertake training.
15:32:01 [jeanne]
JSa a certain amount of support is not going to change.
15:32:37 [sheri_b-h]
Modifications or adjustments that enable an individual with a disability to gain access and successfully complete tasks.
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group agrees on the above modification.
15:33:28 [sheri_b-h]
A document that formally summarizes the extent to which an information and communications technology (ICT) product or service conforms to international accessibility guidelines and standards. The report's format is based on the Voluntary Product Accessibility Template (VPAT™). ACRs are used by buyers to understand how accessible a product is, and any potential deficiencies.
15:36:39 [jeanne]
JSp: I'm concerned that we are calling out VPAT as the basis of ACR. It is very US centric.
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JK: It's a widely accepted standard
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MJM: It isn't used in Europe. They are allowed to use other reports
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JSa: We will hear about it in wide review
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SBH: We have to be careful about that.
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MJM: But we have used them to file reports globally
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JSa: Crosslink the definitions
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present+ jeanne
15:40:51 [sheri_b-h]
The steps and processes related to the procurement of an ICT product or service beginning with the initialization of the solicitation process, response evaluations, vendor selection for award, implementation of the contract requirements, monitoring over the life of the contract including renewals until the contrat reaches its end date.
15:42:58 [sheri_b-h]
MaryJo: do we capitalize things that are defined
15:43:45 [sheri_b-h]
Jeanne: no, sentence case
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External or /internal users of an organization’s products or services, including but not limited to students, employees or potential employees, and contractors / contingent workers.
15:44:43 [jeanne]
Sentence case for titles, all lower case for defined terms, unless it is a proper name or basis of acronym
15:45:19 [jeanne]
https://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/
15:45:58 [sheri_b-h]
External or internal users of an organization’s products or services, including but not limited to students, members of the public, employees, and contractors.
15:47:31 [sheri_b-h]
group agreed to definitions of Contract life cycle and customers
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A measurable subcomponent of an overall organization as defined in the maturity model consisting of a single or multiple functional areas, departments, processes, or other elements of an organization.
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A measurable subcomponent of an organization consisting of a single or multiple functional areas, departments, processes, or other elements of an organization.
15:49:02 [sheri_b-h]
Jake: "measure" is a heavy word
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A subcomponent of an organization consisting of a single or multiple functional areas, departments, processes, or other elements of an organization.
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A subcomponent of an organization consisting of a single or multiple functional areas, departments, processes, or other elements.
15:51:18 [sheri_b-h]
Jeff: wants to keep "maturity model" in definition of dimensions
15:51:45 [sheri_b-h]
Sheri: Leave it out, because if the WAI global glossary gets adopted it will get included in there
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MaryJo: Taxonomy of the aspects on which an organization measure its accessibility maturity
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An aspect of the taxonomy on which an organization measures its accessibility maturity
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An aspect on which an organization measures its accessibility maturity.
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group agrees to definition of Dimension
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Information technology and other equipment, systems, technologies, or processes, for which the principal function is the creation, manipulation, storage, display, receipt, or transmission of electronic data and information, as well as any associated content. Examples of ICT include, but are not limited to: computers and peripheral equipment; information kiosks and transaction machines; telecommunications equipment; customer premises equip[CUT]
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machines; software; applications; websites; videos; and electronic documents.
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group agrees to definition of ICT, matches 508 and EN definition
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Homework for next time: Sheri to change document on language to US English Mary Jo to continue grammar review Sheri to add generic sentence to each dimension Training programs have been established and ongoing to ensure necessary skills for this dimension Mary Jo - check on capitalization of defined terms
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Jeanne and Janina to sort out the invite and the group email ID
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Janina to replace invitation, Sheri will cancel hers
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Sheri to sort out agenda with David, publish next Monday
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