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13:46:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:46:30 <trackbot> Date: 04 May 2022
13:46:33 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, clear the agenda
13:46:33 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:46:38 <Matthew_Atkinson> Chair:  Matthew
13:46:40 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:46:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ TPAC planning: we need your input
13:46:47 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:46:49 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:46:52 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:46:56 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:46:57 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update
13:46:59 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:47:02 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:47:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Other Business
13:47:07 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ be done
13:47:10 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+
13:47:15 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda?
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13:58:04 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:00:45 <janina> present+
14:00:52 <Nadine> present+
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14:01:07 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:01:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/04-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:01:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> regrets: Gottfried
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14:04:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, take up first item
14:04:09 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up first item', Matthew_Atkinson
14:04:13 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, take up next item
14:04:13 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
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14:04:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:04:23 <Joshue108> present+
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14:04:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
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14:05:23 <Fredrik> present+
14:05:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:18:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:18:15 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- TPAC planning: we need your input -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:18:52 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2022/09/TPAC/
14:19:48 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2022
14:19:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: The APA chairs will work to understand and coordinate meetings that the TFs want to have with other groups
14:20:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... TFs to provide feedback by the 18th
14:21:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:21:13 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:21:23 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/279
14:21:55 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/vc-wg-charter/pull/110/files
14:22:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: We agree to do the pull request.
14:22:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... MichaelC will do it. Perhaps wait for them to merge it before close and sign off.
14:23:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:23:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:24:57 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/307
14:25:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:25:37 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:25:59 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/clreq/
14:26:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: There are implications for Chinese, may want to wait for Roy.
14:26:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: Agree.
14:27:09 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/22
14:27:49 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/baggage/
14:28:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> becky: This looks really low level to me.
14:30:28 <Fredrik> Does a new spec, which, due to it's not having been picked up yet, doesn't dangle, slither?
14:32:16 <Fredrik> Fredrik
14:32:40 <Fredrik> scribe> Lionel_Wolberger
14:33:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: This reminds us about concerns regarding headings. We are interested in 'transforms downstream'
14:33:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... accessibility often depends on transformations downstream, and this is an old issue that we have planned to have out with HTTP for a long time
14:33:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: That seems a larger issue than this baggage header spec
14:34:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Agree it's out of scope
14:34:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... would add that JS is transformations downstream
14:34:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: And activity at the edge
14:34:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: This conceern with HTTP header development may require a conversation with IETF
14:35:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... W3C has a formal relationship with IETF, and we often meet at TPAC. There is coordination
14:35:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: Propose we pursue this 'HTTP transformations' issue
14:36:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: So we agree no review on 'baggage'
14:37:34 <Matthew_Atkinson> regrets+ David_Fazio
14:37:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:37:48 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:38:07 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Active
14:39:29 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Layers_API_Level_1
14:39:32 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/WebXR_Layers_API_Level_1
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14:41:24 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Profile
14:41:27 <MichaelC> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2021Sep/0029.html
14:42:13 <Joshue108__> Here is my WebXR layers API comment/question https://github.com/immersive-web/layers/issues/278
14:43:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:43:27 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:43:42 <MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/fast/
14:44:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> MichaelC: PR to incorporate functional needs developed in the Silver group (now being moved into APA) to icorporate into the FAST
14:44:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this removes the list of user needs that was there before
14:44:25 <Matthew_Atkinson> Note for new members: FAST === Framework for Accessible Specification of Technologies (more info at the other end of the link MichaelC put in above)
14:46:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Maturity Model is actively meeting, trying to cleanup the Google doc, driving for FPWD for review
14:48:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for those interested in Maturity Model, send a request to public-apa-chairs@apa.org
14:48:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... This will add you to RQTF, which is the umbrella TF for this Maturity Model work
14:49:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:49:03 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:49:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> Subtopic: RQTF update
14:50:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Remote meetings guidelines has rec'd great comments and is being shared
14:50:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> subtopic: RQTF update
14:50:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Remote meetings guidelines has rec'd great comments and is being shared
14:50:51 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:50:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/05/04-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:51:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> subtopic: pronunciation
14:51:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Problem statement being written regarding outreach to i18n and IETF
14:51:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... regarding pronunciations need for a specification regarding TTS
14:52:04 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+ MichaelC
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14:52:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... seeking the ability to specify characteristic of the spoken: juvenile v adult, gender, time-based language specifity, example Chaucerian English v conntemporary english
14:53:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the existing specs are orthographic, and lack ways to specify these characteristics
14:53:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> subtopic: Personalization (aka Adapt)
14:53:51 <Matthew_Atkinson> scribe: Matthew_Atkinson
14:54:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: We are anticipating adopting the new name of Adapt [CfC still open! -scribe]
14:54:38 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: We closed issue #144 which occupied us for a long time; discussed with i18n.
14:55:04 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: We have taken on some additional actions around clarifying the symbol attribute (having only one symbol attribute value, for simplicity).
14:55:21 <Matthew_Atkinson> janina: I'll tell the team to expect CR by end of May
14:55:24 <Matthew_Atkinson> scribe: Lionel_Wolberger
14:55:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:55:36 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:56:06 <Matthew_Atkinson> scribe: Matthew_Atkinson
14:56:29 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: I was able to get back to i18n about the glossary. You have to understand why the words that are there are there.
14:56:36 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: They have a focus on time, calendar, reading and writing.
14:57:19 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: Emphasis on orthography and typography—on sight-based reading. The glossary misses languages such as sign and symbol languages. Can't blame them for not putting things in the glossary that aren't often discussed in the specs.
14:57:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: Close to completing my review. In line with what we do in personalization, it'd be great if oral-/aural-based reading be included.
14:58:06 <Matthew_Atkinson> janina: I can help write up a note on that; can add to conversation at TPAC. Can give them time to work on it.
14:58:31 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: I'll add terms we'd like to see (and would be great to refer to them).
14:58:37 <Matthew_Atkinson> janina: +1; we'll need to chat at TPAC.
14:59:10 <Matthew_Atkinson> Lionel_Wolberger: Was looking at ways to go beyond, to cognitive concerns; this may be over-reaching.
14:59:20 <Matthew_Atkinson> janina: ASL/*SL is gestural; there is an ISO spec for *SLs.
14:59:33 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, next item
14:59:33 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:59:42 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, close this item
14:59:42 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
14:59:43 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:59:43 <Zakim> 11. be done [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:59:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, next item
14:59:44 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
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