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20:52:37 <RiccardoAlbertoni> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
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20:52:50 <RiccardoAlbertoni> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
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20:53:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> meeting: DXWG DCAT subgroup
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21:08:06 <RiccardoAlbertoni> PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes  https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-dxwgdcat-minutes
21:08:07 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.05.03
21:08:14 <AndreaPerego> topic: approve last meeting minutes
21:08:15 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:08:23 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:08:23 <DaveBrowning> +1
21:08:32 <AndreaPerego> resolved: approve last meeting minutes
21:08:40 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:08:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2022.05.03
21:08:50 <AndreaPerego> topic: approve agenda
21:09:01 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: Any proposed changes?
21:09:13 <AndreaPerego> [none]
21:09:31 <AndreaPerego> topic: Updates from last plenary
21:09:42 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1502
21:09:54 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: Publication of 4PWD was approved.
21:10:13 <AndreaPerego> ... The issue of wide review was raised (see link above).
21:10:39 <AndreaPerego> ... And also the one of the horizontal review - i.e., from other W3C WGs.
21:10:45 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1504
21:11:03 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: About horizontal review, we have specific checklists.
21:11:29 <AndreaPerego> ... The first one ^^ is about i18n.
21:11:43 <AndreaPerego> ... There are many not relevant for DCAT, but a couple of them are.
21:12:12 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/958
21:12:16 <AndreaPerego> ... The first one is about some issues opened by i18n about DCAT:
21:12:44 <AndreaPerego> s/DCAT:/DCAT ^^/
21:13:04 <AndreaPerego> ... We partially replied to it, but we didn't address the point about direction metadata.
21:13:11 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://w3c.github.io/rdf-dir-literal/
21:13:33 <AndreaPerego> ... About this, options on how to do this in RDF is discussed in a specific document ^^
21:15:07 <AndreaPerego> ... As this approach is not part of a REC, so we can keep the issue open, and move it to future work.
21:15:23 <AndreaPerego> ... When an "official" solution will be available, it can be adopted in DCAT.
21:15:59 <AndreaPerego> proposed: Keep open https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/958 and move it to future work
21:16:05 <DaveBrowning> +1
21:16:08 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:16:10 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:16:20 <AndreaPerego> resolved: Keep open https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/958 and move it to future work
21:16:22 <RiccardoAlbertoni> “The document available at  https://w3c.github.io/rdf-dir-literal/  states that  text direction problem must be solved on the RDF level and provides an analysis of possible alternatives. DCAT expects to inherit a solution for expressing text direction from RDF.”
21:16:33 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: Maybe we can add comment to issue ^^
21:16:42 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:16:50 <DaveBrowning> +1
21:17:08 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/959
21:17:10 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: The other issue ^^
21:18:35 <AndreaPerego> ... The comment is about ISO language codes instead of URIs for language.
21:19:39 <AndreaPerego> ...There was some discussion on this thread, and some proposals to address the issue.
21:21:36 <AndreaPerego> ... I wonder whether what we proposed can be considered as the solution.
21:21:57 <AndreaPerego> ... Or rather we should ping again i18n to get their feedback.
21:26:32 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: They didn't provide feedback, so either we ping them, or ask PLH what to do.
21:27:17 <AndreaPerego> ... In any case, using blank nodes instead of URIs raises a number of issues, also in terms of linked data principles.
21:27:42 <AndreaPerego> ... And we have official code lists about languages, where each language definition also include the ISO codes.
21:28:42 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/837
21:30:24 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: i18n also raised an issue about the problem literals vs URIs mentioned by Addison ^^
21:35:17 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: My feeling is that we are stuck here, since we need the feedback from Addison.
21:36:06 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: I suggest we then add a comment to the issue asking Addison to provide the text for this "health warning".
21:39:54 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: No harm doing that, but I wonder whether we should ask first PLH which approach is best.
21:43:00 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: It may well be the case that the "health warning" solves the problem, but this needs to be done by looking at the current situation - the issue have been hanging for quite a while.
21:43:23 <AndreaPerego> ... This is also something to be asked to PLH.
21:43:43 <AndreaPerego> scribenick: AndreaPerego
21:43:52 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:44:28 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: All right, let's discuss with PLH.
21:44:51 <AndreaPerego> ... I suggest anyway we add a comment to the issue, trying to get in touch again with Addison.
21:48:26 <AndreaPerego> proposed: About https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/959 , contact Addison to ask if he thinks the "health warning" solves the issue  and, in such a case, to provide as the text
21:48:38 <AndreaPerego> proposed: About https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/959 , contact Addison to ask if he thinks the "health warning" solves the issue  and, in such a case, to provide us the text
21:48:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:48:54 <DaveBrowning> +1
21:48:57 <AndreaPerego> +1
21:49:02 <AndreaPerego> resolved: About https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/959 , contact Addison to ask if he thinks the "health warning" solves the issue  and, in such a case, to provide us the text
21:49:05 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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21:49:34 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/582
21:50:07 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: I was checking checklists filled in by some WG for some inspiration.
21:50:33 <AndreaPerego> ... The WoT ^^ even expanded the checklist. Not sure we should to that.
21:51:18 <AndreaPerego> s/to that/do that/
21:52:47 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Finalizing a11y checklist [https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1506]
21:53:08 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: I also started other checklists.
21:53:28 <AndreaPerego> ... The a11y one is mostly not relevant to DCAT, AFAICT.
21:54:24 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: DaveBrowning, you did something on privacy and security?
21:55:04 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: We have the section in the spec, where we basically say we don't deal with these issues.
21:55:11 <AndreaPerego> ... Not sure we did more than that.
21:56:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/TR/security-privacy-questionnaire/
21:56:34 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: The security checklist ^^
22:08:40 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I have the impression that we just have one answer to all the questions: privacy and security issues can be related to which type of information a data provider expose via DCAT, but not on DCAT itself.
22:09:32 <AndreaPerego> ... Maybe we can ask PLH which is the best way to answer to the checklist - considering that the answer will be basically the same.
22:10:32 <AndreaPerego> RiccardoAlbertoni: Actually, I had the impression that some of the guidelines we are providing in terms of the use of DCAT may be relevant from the privacy and security point of view.
22:10:39 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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22:12:28 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: I will have a look at the privacy and security checklist.
22:14:21 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1502
22:17:31 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: I will look at the architecture one.
22:18:39 <AndreaPerego> DaveBrowning: About talking with PLH, I suggest we devote some time during the plenary.
22:19:21 <AndreaPerego> AndreaPerego: +1
22:19:27 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
22:26:51 <AndreaPerego> [meeting adjourned]
22:26:54 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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