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12:02:02 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:02:14 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
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12:04:46 <McCool__> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#27_April_2022
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12:08:13 <sebastian> topic: guests
12:08:21 <sebastian> no guests today
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12:08:51 <Ege> scribenick: sebastian
12:08:57 <mlagally_> zakim,who is on the call?
12:08:57 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
12:08:59 <sebastian> topic: minutes
12:09:07 <Ege> present+ sebastian
12:09:15 <Ege> zakim,who is on the call?
12:09:15 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, sebastian
12:09:18 <Ege> scribenick: sebastian
12:09:32 <sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/20-wot-minutes.html
12:09:34 <Ege> present+ Michael_Lagally
12:09:39 <Ege> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:09:57 <Ege> present+ Tomoaki_Mizuschima
12:10:45 <Ege> present+ Tetsushi_Matsuda
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12:11:10 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:11:31 <sebastian> there is just one typo to be fixed
12:11:45 <sebastian> and some render thing
12:11:59 <Mizushima> present- Tomoaki_Mizuschima
12:12:00 <sebastian> any objections for publications?
12:12:01 <sebastian> no
12:12:10 <Mizushima> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:12:28 <dape> q+
12:12:37 <sebastian> topic: Ongoing Action Items
12:13:15 <sebastian> <McCool shows the new structure of the ongoing action items in the agenda>
12:13:15 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
12:13:15 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, sebastian, Michael_Lagally, Daniel_Peintner, Tetsushi_Matsuda, David_Ezell, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:14:03 <sebastian> Daniel: prefer the old order
12:14:08 <kaz> present- sebastian
12:14:15 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
12:14:23 <sebastian> McCool: lets try it out how it works
12:14:24 <kaz> q+
12:14:34 <kaz> q-
12:14:56 <dape> ack dape
12:15:38 <kaz> q+
12:15:45 <sebastian> ML: next week I will present the result of the use case coverage table
12:16:46 <kaz> q-
12:17:08 <kaz> q+
12:17:12 <sebastian> ... please all TD should contribute to have complete result
12:17:37 <sebastian> topic: Cancellations and Schedule Updates
12:17:54 <sebastian> McCool: any known cancellations?
12:18:46 <kaz> (Kaz mentions @@)
12:19:27 <sebastian> Kaz: next week there is golden week in Japan. Most likely low attendance from Japanese members.
12:19:36 <kaz> s/(Kaz mentions @@)//
12:19:41 <McCool__> https://github.com/mmccool/ac-2022-sus-pres
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12:20:24 <sebastian> topic: Quick updates
12:20:44 <kaz> s|https://github.com/mmccool/ac-2022-sus-pres||
12:20:54 <kaz> -> https://github.com/mmccool/ac-2022-sus-pres McCool's slides
12:20:59 <kaz> q+
12:21:20 <sebastian> <McCool reports from the sustainability discussion during the AC meeting on Apr 27>
12:21:51 <kaz> q-
12:22:08 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:23:14 <sebastian> topic: publication
12:23:24 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:23:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:23:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/27-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:23:43 <sebastian> McCool: we are behind the schedule.
12:23:46 <Ege> brb
12:24:59 <sebastian> ... we need to do 5 wide reviews
12:25:22 <sebastian> ... for TD, we have so far 2 done
12:26:11 <sebastian> ... the wiki page keeps track what is done and what is still in progress
12:26:53 <sebastian> ... TD needs to submit an issue for privacy and security
12:27:05 <kaz> chair: McCool/Sebastian
12:28:06 <sebastian> ... Privacy needs to have a mitigation for browser fingerprinting
12:28:41 <sebastian> ... we need explainers ready for Architecture, Discovery and Profiles
12:28:48 <sebastian> ... for next week
12:29:31 <sebastian> ... they are necessary to start the wide review for those spec. documents
12:30:02 <sebastian> ML: for architecture we have already version available
12:30:15 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/blob/main/explainer/WoT%20Architecture%20Explainer%2011.md
12:32:12 <sebastian> McCool: is interaliziation review done for TD?
12:32:28 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
12:32:46 <sebastian> almost. 2-3 issue open. Unclear if there some action needed for the TD spec
12:34:22 <sebastian> McCool: I have not Profile in the list since it is not stable yet. If stable we will add it
12:35:10 <sebastian> <McCool shows the publication plan https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md>
12:37:44 <sebastian> ... there seems to be a c&p error for the TD PR transition
12:38:02 <sebastian> ... lets move it to mid-July
12:40:15 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/#candidate-rec CR transition (must be at least 28 days; also initiates the 60-day Call-for-Exclusion procedure)
12:41:29 <sebastian> topic:  Testing
12:42:01 <Ege> I am here
12:42:08 <sebastian> McCool: Implementation report for TD is merged
12:42:12 <Ege> I have a script almost ready that goes through all the inputs
12:42:39 <sebastian> ... some updates currently prepeared
12:43:15 <Ege> I have audio problem
12:43:41 <sebastian> McCool: ok, lets talk about this in the Testing Call
12:43:52 <kaz> s/I am here//
12:44:02 <kaz> s/I have audio problem//
12:44:46 <sebastian> ... we should have a final TestFest. mid-July may to late
12:44:53 <sebastian> s/to/too
12:47:09 <sebastian> ... begin July may a compromise
12:47:30 <sebastian> topic: Charter Extensions and Renewal
12:48:03 <sebastian> Kaz: no news about the extenstion. No approvel yet. I already send an reminder.
12:48:20 <kaz> s/No a/Not a/
12:48:33 <kaz> s/appvovel yet/approved yet/
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12:48:51 <sebastian> topic: Liaisons
12:49:06 <kaz> s/send an reminder./sent several reminders, but will talk with PLH directly on IRC again./
12:50:32 <sebastian> no news about OPC UA. I will start to plan a joint meeting with members from OPCF and W3C WOT
12:50:42 <dape> s/extenstion/extension
12:51:35 <sebastian> McCool: Please review the PR:
12:51:46 <McCool__> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1020
12:52:39 <sebastian> ... no news about ITU-T SG20. Waiting for a response of my last email
12:53:05 <kaz> q+
12:54:08 <kaz> ack k
12:54:44 <sebastian> Kaz: ECHONET joint the last TestFest and discussion about the next generation of WoT
12:55:28 <sebastian> s/discussion/do discussion
12:57:51 <kaz> q+
12:59:12 <sebastian> Kaz: there is an overlap with ECLASS and IEC CDD
13:01:41 <sebastian> MK: in T2TRG/IETF there is digital twin meeting May 5
13:02:26 <kaz> s/joint the last TestFest and discussion about the next generation of WoT/joined the WoT-JP CG event the other day, and gave useful feedback there. On the other hand, IEC SC 3D guys had an internal meeting today and are interested in further collaboration via the WoT-JP CG. So I'd like to continue to work with Mizushima-san (as the WoT-JP CG Chair), Ajitomi-san (as the CG's Outreach TF Moderator) and Matsuda-san (active participant in ECHONET) about the
13:02:26 <kaz> next steps for those two liaisons (=ECHONET and IEC SC 3D)./
13:02:48 <sebastian> Microsoft like to start active role at W3C WoT WG
13:03:08 <sebastian> will invite them to one of the next main call
13:03:18 <kaz> s/Micro/Sebastian: Micro/
13:03:24 <kaz> s/will/... will/
13:04:04 <kaz> s/there is an overlap with ECLASS and IEC CDD/As you know, ECLASS uses IEC CDD as the basic format, and IEC SC 3D guys are also working with ECLASS./
13:04:10 <kaz> q?
13:04:12 <kaz> ack k
13:05:06 <sebastian> adjourn
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