12:34:35 RRSAgent has joined #rqtf 12:34:35 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/04/27-rqtf-irc 12:34:37 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:34:37 Zakim has joined #rqtf 12:34:39 Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference 12:34:39 Date: 27 April 2022 12:34:42 agenda+ Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. 12:34:42 agenda+ Accessibility of Remote Meetings. 12:34:42 agenda+ Accessibility of collaboration tools - scope of possible work. 12:34:42 agenda+ Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. 12:34:45 agenda+ Miscellaneous topics. 12:34:54 present+ 12:34:56 chair: jasonjgw 12:53:17 JPaton has joined #rqtf 13:00:42 SteveNoble has joined #rqtf 13:01:06 zakim, next item 13:01:06 agendum 1 -- Inaccessibility of CAPTCHA. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:01:35 present+ 13:01:36 scott_h has joined #rqtf 13:01:45 scribe: SteveNoble 13:02:04 present+ 13:02:30 janina: Not a lot of movement yet on CAPTCHA 13:03:28 janina: We should continue to work on this as time allows 13:04:55 zakim, next item 13:04:55 agendum 2 -- Accessibility of Remote Meetings. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:05:14 present+ 13:05:51 jasonjgw: Scott sent out the previous blog post text from the first time 13:06:18 jasonjgw: The blog text is a bit long for an announcement 13:07:39 janina: The is a wiki page with a template for announcements and other types of communications 13:08:25 jasonjgw: However, it looks like the earlier version of the announcement on that page is no longer there 13:09:12 janina: Will see if we can get some staff help to find this 13:11:16 zakim, next item 13:11:16 agendum 3 -- Accessibility of collaboration tools - scope of possible work. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:12:29 jasonjgw: Created wiki page at https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Collaboration_Tool_Accessibility 13:14:02 jasonjgw: Have found numerous examples in the research literature, although it seems very screen-reader heavy 13:14:24 jasonjgw: Not much in the way of cognitive impairments 13:16:13 raja: Have some experience in collaboration in games and teams 13:16:33 raja: But not seeing a lot in the wiki 13:16:57 janina: The wiki is bare bones right now 13:18:03 raja: Agree that we need more discussion and come to some agreement on definitions 13:21:45 raja: The general concept of synchronous or asynchronous - for example, with captions and transcriptions, where captions are timed but a transcript is OK without timestamps 13:22:31 janina: We could look at these distinctions as examples 13:24:25 jasonjgw: One concern - if several are collaborating online in real time in a document, but also communicating at the same time (like in a meeting) that creates a lot of cognitive load 13:25:02 raja: Sometime people need more time to digest information 13:26:32 janina: One example is the real-time meeting, but the other is perhaps more on asynchronous collaborative document editing 13:27:48 raja: We need to find a way to allow people to slow down or pause which would support those with longer processing time 13:28:20 janina: This seems more like an issue for Remote Meetings 13:29:03 jasonjgw: Yes - the Remote Meetings updated draft has this now 13:30:15 scott_h: Collaborative tool documents like Office 365 online with Narrator works very well 13:30:58 scott_h: Good example is writing grant applications - lots of people writing different points 13:32:46 scott_h: Agree that there are different implications for different assistive technology use cases 13:34:57 jasonjgw: Literature on this mostly concerns screen reader users 13:35:26 jasonjgw: We should do a cross-disability analysis 13:37:20 sorry everone - will share comments in IRC 13:38:46 basically just saying that when we look at collaborative tools 13:38:46 we should consider stastic documents, editing periodically 13:39:05 and also a fflurry of editing such as in a collaborative grant application 13:39:10 and the implications for assistive technology use in all these sceanrios 13:39:16 raja: defining the user case and scenarios will be helpful 13:39:30 across differen disability groups 13:39:32 I thik that's it - sorry that my internet seems to ahve died for zoom tonight 13:40:18 Will add my references to the wiki durig the week 13:42:07 jasonjgw: We should consider what features we have an interest in, and let that determine what types of collaborative tools we wnat to discuss 13:43:08 zakim, next item 13:43:08 agendum 4 -- Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:43:30 jasonjgw: Nothing to report here 13:43:54 jasonjgw: Should resume this discussion when Josh is present 13:44:53 jasonjgw: Updated draft is likely in order 13:45:05 zakim, next item 13:45:05 agendum 5 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw] 13:45:58 jasonjgw: The web machine learning ethics document has not made any changes this far 13:47:28 janina: Two CfCs out - renaming the personalization task force to "WAI Adapt:" with the name of the module afterward 13:48:27 janina: An SVG draft is out as well 13:49:05 janina: The Maturity Model work is in the works as well 13:50:03 jasonjgw: Other thoughts? 13:50:12 zakim, bye 13:50:12 leaving. 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