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14:51:11 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
14:51:28 <janina> Date: 20 Apr 2022
14:51:37 <janina> Regrets: David_Fazio
14:51:40 <janina> Chair Sheri
14:51:51 <janina> agenda?
14:51:58 <janina> zakim, clear agenda
14:51:58 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:52:55 <janina> Agenda+ Review Dimension■s Structure and Reconcile Inconsistencies
14:52:55 <janina> Agenda+ Identify Specific Action Items to Complete in Next 2 Weeks to Ready Publication
14:52:58 <janina> Agenda+ Review Any Recent Edits By Group Members
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14:54:48 <jlkline> here
14:55:15 <janina>  /me Try 'present+' like this ...
14:55:17 <janina> present+
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15:00:32 <Sheri_B-H> Janina, can you post the meeting link again here?  Jeff and I are on the old link
15:01:30 <Sheri_B-H> also MaryJo is on the old link
15:01:45 <janina> New Zoom: https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_maturity-model
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15:04:12 <nadinesienel> present+
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15:05:28 <Sheri_B-H> That's the link to the page that I can't get to, I need the actual zoom link
15:06:26 <jlkline> 988 3484 3716
15:07:30 <Sheri_B-H> Meeting ID says it requires a passcode
15:07:48 <Sheri_B-H> yes I refreshed - there is a problem because I have two IDs and I suspect the permissions were granted to my non-work ID
15:09:00 <jlkline> i have the passcode
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15:10:48 <jlkline> 341074
15:13:04 <janina> present+
15:13:10 <maryjom> present+
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15:13:20 <Sheri_B-H_> present+
15:13:25 <jlkline> Present+
15:13:38 <janina> zakim, next item
15:13:38 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Review Dimension■s Structure and Reconcile Inconsistencies -- taken up [from janina]
15:14:09 <janina> regrets: David, Jake, Rauph
15:14:42 <janina> Sheri: apologies for missing recent calls; much reorg at work ...
15:15:00 <janina> sheri: Are there outstanding proposals?
15:15:26 <janina> jeff: Not a problem with structure; was concerned with consistency and actionable proof points
15:15:45 <janina> jeff: Knowledge and skills doesn't seem particularly actionable
15:15:52 <janina> sheri: Unfortunately, no Jake today
15:17:37 <janina> sheri: Recalls glossary still not finished. We need definitions for terms not defined elsewhere
15:18:10 <janina> sheri: reviews existing glossary ...
15:18:23 <janina> sheri: need to make sure what we have is complete
15:18:57 <janina> jeff: wasn't aware it would be so specific; thought generic to the doc
15:19:11 <janina> sheri: so that people would have terms before reading the doc
15:19:24 <janina> jeff: haven't formatted to include definitions
15:19:43 <janina> sheri: e.g. cicd
15:20:17 <janina> q+
15:25:01 <janina> janina: notes usual practice on defitionsack ja
15:25:43 <janina> janina: I'll take up with APA management as how best to handle for both objectives--not too many in the main glossary, but definitions within dimensions as needed
15:26:09 <janina> sheri: looks at some candidate definitions --- which to keep
15:27:08 <janina> sheri: looks for any conflicts ...
15:27:29 <janina> mary jo: proofpoint used throughout the doc; one word? two words? Camel case?
15:27:59 <janina> sheri suggests standard 2 word grammar approach
15:28:02 <janina> [group agrees]
15:28:16 <janina> sheri: will take care globally
15:29:09 <janina> sheri: question re "accomodations" U.S. definition? Something more general world wide?
15:31:52 <janina> agenda?
15:31:57 <janina> agenda?
15:33:53 <janina> sheri: any other inconsistencies we need to close out?
15:34:16 <janina> sheri: I have been trying to catch Euro specific ones ...
15:34:38 <janina> mary jo offers to review detail review
15:35:03 <janina> sheri: notes david has previously looked at comments.
15:35:36 <janina> maryjo: notes lots of suggested changes still in the doc ...
15:36:45 <janina> jeff: asks about ISO 3071
15:36:53 <janina> jeff: someone also mentioned another on usability
15:37:15 <janina> jeff: suggests we finish fpwd with what we think, then go back and look whether any conflicts
15:37:43 <janina> sheri: wasn't there an agreement to present on the ISO doc to us?
15:38:03 <janina> sheri: we're 60 pages, their's about 150; we will need to consider conflicts
15:38:14 <janina> jeff: believe only in the development area
15:38:24 <janina> jeff: no detail on policy or procurement
15:38:30 <janina> sheri: I'll check
15:38:52 <janina> sheri: if we have some, we'll pursue a joint meeting
15:39:19 <janina> sheri: need to clean up open questions section: Sec. 1.5
15:39:48 <janina> jeff: so far we've only asked for feedback within w3c?
15:39:56 <janina> sheri: correct, but that's why we should revisit
15:40:25 <janina> maryjo: don't understand the items
15:40:31 <janina> sheri: we have multiple schemes
15:40:57 <janina> sheri: so we have 3 ways of displaying info; we thought we should get feedback on which approach to adopt
15:41:45 <janina> jeff: thought this was a working action item
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15:46:31 <janina> sheri: e.g. we're often asked to show where we are to make something a11y; sometimes under nda; not always
15:46:55 <Sam> present+
15:46:57 <janina> jeff: allows for tracking data, etc., to get auto pulled out and made available
15:47:58 <janina> zakim, take up item 3
15:47:58 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Review Any Recent Edits By Group Members -- taken up [from janina]
15:48:14 <janina> sheri asks mj if she knows where changes are?
15:49:47 <janina> unreviewed changes in communications dimension; Sec. 3.1 -- jeff picking up from lauri
15:50:57 <janina> mary_jo: also inconsistent in commas
15:51:19 <janina> janina: APA's a fan of Oxford
15:51:34 <janina> sheri: Done. we'll use Oxford commas
15:53:02 <janina> multimedia as well as captions, etc ...
15:53:14 <janina> do we want a link to training?
15:53:43 <janina> jeff: discussed ... suggested training proof points where useful
15:54:02 <janina> sheri: I prefer links because it's easier
15:57:58 <janina> jeff: argues knowledge and skills isn't specific to any dimensionjeff: will be traveling 4 May; but will try to be here at least part
15:59:37 <janina> zakim, bye
15:59:37 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been sheri_b-h, Fazio_, maryjom, jeanne, JakeAbma_, janina, nadinesienel, Sheri_B-H_, jlkline, Sam
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15:59:42 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
15:59:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/27-maturity-minutes.html janina
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