IRC log of silver-reliability on 2022-04-19

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jeanne

13:22:16 [jeanne]

Meeting: Test Reliability

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chair: Francis

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present+ Francis, jeanne, Daniel

13:22:46 [jeanne]

Topic: New glossary definitions

13:23:22 [jeanne]

JS: Definitions are very technical. How do we keep the plain language stuff separate from the need to have very detailed technical information?

13:23:39 [jeanne]

FS: We could separate by authors and implementors

13:31:16 [jeanne]

FS: We are talking about the difference between "passage" and "phrase".

13:32:11 [jeanne]

DM: The phrase is beneath the block, the passage is a block.

13:32:53 [jeanne]

JS: I think the solution is to drop "phrase" becausee we aren't requiring it.

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13:37:02 [jeanne]

We agreed that we would remove "phrase" and substitute "block of text" for "passage" and then use the WCAG2 definition of "text".

13:37:21 [jeanne]

We want to run it by WIlco in case there are considerations we hadn't thought about.

13:38:04 [jeanne]

FS: "Block starts at the first word in the human language and ends at the last word in that language."

13:41:23 [jeanne]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MjmGLfmqcfLgauqg0C3dRZG6KYT2dy5BQ69sz4xet6Q/edit#heading=h.ywcjic3meskl

13:43:25 [jeanne]

Block of text definition: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1onytB133NRc1EXEOVPizcOqeTi70r2JUcba-LgUyKEY/edit#heading=h.ebjmfi7nj58b

13:48:30 [jeanne]

Changed all the WCAG2 "human language" to "natural language" to make it consistent with internationalization.

13:56:56 [jeanne]

Definitions of natural language -> https://www.specref.org/?q=natural%20language

13:57:37 [jeanne]

We would be ready to present to AGWG in a minimum of two weeks, longer if Wilco has objections

13:59:46 [jeanne]

Natural Language Interface Accessibility User Requirements -> https://www.w3.org/TR/naur/

14:03:35 [jeanne]

JS: I struck out on finding a definition, although 6 W3C specs use the term in their title

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