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12:03:36 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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12:04:11 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:04:20 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
12:04:32 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#13_April_2022
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12:08:29 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:08:45 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/06-wot-minutes.html Apr-6
12:08:58 <kaz> q+ to mention the IE proposal from Alexander
12:09:35 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
12:09:56 <kaz> ?
12:11:26 <kaz> s/?//
12:11:29 <kaz> approved
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12:12:15 <McCool_> topic: IE request
12:12:23 <kaz> scribenick: McCool_
12:12:35 <kaz> i/approved/scribenick: kaz/
12:12:52 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:12:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:12:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:13:12 <kaz> mm: got a request for IE fro Alexander Power
12:13:21 <kaz> ... but we're not sure about his affiliation, etc.
12:13:34 <kaz> ... we can invite him to the main call to give presentation
12:13:45 <dape> q+
12:13:48 <kaz> ... but maybe it would make sense to ask him to start with the WoT CG
12:13:49 <kaz> ack k
12:13:49 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention the IE proposal from Alexander
12:13:55 <kaz> q-
12:14:13 <McCool_> mm: one suggestion is to ask him to join the CG, and participate that way
12:14:28 <McCool_> ... but we need more information
12:14:54 <McCool_> kaz: ok, will respond; mm and seb can add comments
12:15:04 <kaz> action: kaz to respond to Alexander
12:15:14 <McCool_> dape: think we should also ask about his interesting
12:15:28 <dape> ack dape
12:15:36 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:15:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:15:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:15:43 <kaz> q?
12:15:45 <kaz> q+
12:15:52 <McCool_> ... not marketing, not really the best place to start
12:16:04 <kaz> ack k
12:16:35 <kaz> i/got a request/scribenick: kaz/
12:16:41 <McCool_> mm: although part of the problem is the "marketing" TF has the wrong name; should be community outreach
12:16:52 <McCool_> ... although use cases also makes sense
12:17:06 <McCool_> kaz: CG members can also do technical work, eg. for use cases
12:17:08 <McCool_> mm: true
12:17:22 <McCool_> topic: Tools for W3C Spec work
12:17:30 <McCool_> seb: do we want to do this today?
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12:18:10 <McCool_> kaz: all the editors need to understand some key points
12:18:22 <McCool_> mm: perhaps a 5m summary?
12:18:35 <McCool_> seb: ok, let's do that
12:18:51 <McCool_> kaz: (shares pres)
12:19:05 <McCool_> ... starting point is /Guide, but complicated
12:19:19 <McCool_> ... pres has information for each role: chairs, editors, participants
12:19:33 <McCool_> ... also some info on how to use irc to take minutes
12:20:07 <McCool_> ... some notes on development notes for editors
12:20:18 <McCool_> ... process, wide review
12:20:59 <McCool_> mm: note in particular issue labelling
12:21:17 <McCool_> kaz: info on static HTML, other resources on namespaces, etc.
12:21:28 <McCool_> seb: how can I generate a static version?
12:21:52 <McCool_> kaz: see some recent emails, there is a readme now
12:22:21 <McCool_> ... but basically can use ReSpec menu on draft, "export", then download HTML, then upload it
12:22:37 <McCool_> ... then can use pubrule checker, etc.
12:24:30 <McCool_> mm: note that *-needs-resolution labels should be applied by reviewers, not us
12:25:08 <McCool_> seb: and can anyone start minutes with IRC?
12:25:14 <McCool_> kaz: yes, instructions on slides
12:25:21 <McCool_> topic: OPC UA
12:25:43 <McCool_> seb: will be organizing joint meeting, but after Easter vacation
12:25:45 <kaz> i|do we want to do|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/Talks/0322-tools-ka/ Tools for W3C Spec Work|
12:25:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:25:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:26:07 <McCool_> mm: so, earliest it would be would be April 25
12:26:10 <McCool_> seb: correct
12:26:17 <McCool_> topic: Quick Updates
12:26:29 <kaz> i/one suggestion is to/scribenick: McCool/
12:26:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:26:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:26:52 <McCool_> seb: several cancellations due to vacations: Editors, Profiles, Architecture, Use Cases, also Scripting API
12:28:04 <McCool_> mm: probably generally poor attendance the next two weeks
12:28:22 <McCool_> seb: and is Discovery cancelled April 18 due to Easter Monday?
12:29:05 <McCool_> mm: ok, guess we should cancel Discovery on April 18 as well
12:29:50 <McCool_> mm: in the meantime, I plan to work on PRs, etc.
12:30:10 <McCool_> seb: reminder that can use the W3C calendar/planner
12:30:21 <kaz> s/would be would be/would be/
12:31:17 <McCool_> mm: I also added a link to this to the top of the wiki in the "WebConf" section
12:31:29 <McCool_> subtopics: Japanese CG
12:31:48 <McCool_> tm: next event April 22, reservations are open, 43 registered...
12:32:02 <McCool_> ... see connpass link in agenda
12:32:30 <McCool_> subtopic: Use Case Due Diligence
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12:33:17 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:33:38 <McCool_> seb: coverage table, ege will look at binding templates
12:33:51 <McCool_> mm: I will be looking at discovery, and updating requirements table proposal
12:33:52 <kaz> q+
12:34:02 <McCool_> subtopic: charter extension
12:34:21 <McCool_> seb: got some comments from Sam Weiler, regarding template, etc.
12:34:46 <Ege> ack k
12:34:56 <McCool_> kaz: I have addressed the links to the new IG charter and the copyright notice
12:35:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:35:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/13-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:35:21 <McCool_> ... I will talk to PLH again, we are still waiting
12:35:32 <McCool_> mm: I also asked whether we really have to update to the new template
12:35:58 <kaz> scribenick: Ege
12:36:37 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/978
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12:37:00 <Ege> sk: you can add your ideas to the charter
12:37:13 <kaz> chair: Sebastian/McCool
12:37:24 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
12:37:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:37:28 <Ege> q+
12:37:41 <Ege> ... each TF should discuss on their own
12:38:40 <kaz> i/978/subtopic: WG recharter/
12:38:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:41:07 <Ege> ek: I think we should use the use coverage table to identify work items for the new charter
12:41:13 <Ege> mm: yes this is the intention
12:41:27 <Ege> ... however, if there is already an issue in a spec, they should be taken into consideration
12:41:49 <Ege> Topic: Publications
12:43:21 <Ege> Subtopic: Discovery
12:43:35 <Ege> mm: it is frozen but we have identified gaps in the implementations
12:44:01 <Ege> ... we have cancellations for the next two weeks though
12:44:20 <Ege> Subtopic: TD
12:44:38 <kaz> s/use the use cov/use the use case cov/
12:44:39 <Ege> sk: we have this issue on the w3ctag repository by mmccool
12:44:52 <Ege> mm: for discovery we are lacking the explainer
12:46:26 <Ege> mm: I will create a PR for discovery
12:46:36 <Ege> sk: you can reuse the explainer from the TD
12:47:09 <Ege> Subtopic: Extension Plan
12:47:51 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md
12:48:04 <Ege> sk: we should update the extension plan with new dates
12:48:11 <kaz> q+
12:48:18 <kaz> ack Ege
12:49:30 <kaz> ack k
12:50:27 <kaz> q+
12:51:18 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
12:51:30 <kaz> topic: Marketing
12:52:22 <kaz> subtopic: Success Story for Standict
12:52:32 <kaz> ek: got contact from the W3C ERCIM Team
12:52:45 <kaz> ... checking with the W3C MarComm Team now
12:53:48 <Ege> Subtopic: Standict Success Story
12:54:39 <kaz> s/Subtopic: Standict Success Story//
12:55:26 <kaz> subtopic: WoT CG collaboration
12:56:12 <kaz> ca: generating a draft Charter for the CG
12:56:20 <kaz> q?
12:56:23 <kaz> ack k
12:56:24 <kaz> q+
12:57:21 <Ege> ca: we are working with Ege to draft a new charter
12:57:29 <kaz> s/ca: generating a draft Charter for the CG//
12:58:23 <kaz> kaz: how to proceed with the discussion?
12:58:30 <kaz> ... marketing call? or main call?
12:58:41 <cris> +1 for the having during the marketing call
12:58:49 <Ege> ek: we will host a feedback session with the CG, also check activity
12:59:06 <kaz> i/how to/scribenick: kaz/
12:59:09 <Ege> ek: we can talk during the marketing call and present the results in the main call
12:59:26 <kaz> i/for the hav/scribenick: Ege/
12:59:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:59:42 <kaz> q+
13:00:22 <kaz> ack k
13:00:45 <Ege> sk: will there be Testing call?
13:00:50 <Ege> mm: fady told me that he cannot make it
13:01:33 <Ege> mm: I will chair it and have some updates on the home assistant setupp
13:01:58 <kaz> i/will there/topic: Testing/
13:02:19 <kaz> s/setupp/set-up/
13:02:43 <Ege> sk: there will be td call next week, ege will moderate it
13:02:58 <kaz> i/there will/topic: Liaison/
13:03:09 <kaz> i/there will/scribenick: kaz/
13:03:43 <kaz> i/there will/kaz: will have discussion on CDD collaboration with the new IEC contacts on Apr-18. will bring back the results to the next call./
13:04:07 <kaz> i/there will/topic: TFs/
13:04:10 <kaz> [adjourned]
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