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10:01:26 <kaz> meeting: WoT Architecture
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10:02:14 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally
10:03:17 <mlagally> np
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10:09:54 <mlagally> zakim, who is on the call?
10:09:54 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally
10:10:16 <ktoumura> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
10:10:18 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool
10:10:35 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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10:11:09 <McCool> topic: minutes
10:11:11 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
10:11:16 <McCool> ml: no objs, approved
10:11:28 <kaz> i|no o|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/31-wot-arch-minutes.html Mar-31|
10:11:35 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
10:11:45 <McCool> topic: schedule
10:11:57 <McCool> ml: let's just review where we are
10:15:22 <McCool> ... norm freeze may 6th
10:16:24 <McCool> ... feb 4 was normative sections
10:16:42 <McCool> mm: one thing to mention is if S&P become normative, technically adds new assertions
10:16:57 <McCool> ... but this would be consistent with other specs
10:17:33 <McCool> ... I would expect the security TF to get through that in the next two weeks
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10:21:28 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/wot-architecture/#sec-security-considerations 10. Security Considerations
10:21:38 <McCool> ml: what does it mean if they violate one of the S&P assertions?
10:23:38 <McCool> mm: see also 726, which is review
10:24:49 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/726 Issue 726 - Review and Update Security and Privacy Considerations
10:26:10 <McCool> ml: let's do a PR that just makes it normative, and then ask for review
10:27:27 <McCool> ... also delete the ednote about refactoring, already done
10:29:46 <McCool> mm: also we need to add discovery, of course
10:30:14 <McCool> topic: spec structure
10:31:39 <McCool> ml: for the May 6 deadline, need to see if there are any other places where there would be assertions
10:32:01 <kaz> q+
10:32:06 <McCool> ... is label called "normative sections", but these are reorg
10:33:05 <kaz> ack k
10:33:48 <McCool> ... see also issue 646
10:34:21 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/646 Issue 646 - [Index] Section structure, assertions, and issues
10:34:44 <McCool> mm: also want to check S&P are in the right place
10:35:23 <McCool> ml: is issue 646 still open?
10:35:35 <McCool> ... can we close this, or is it still open?
10:35:52 <McCool> kt: if structure is settled, we can close this issue
10:36:04 <McCool> ml: ok, I think we are settled, let's close
10:36:40 <McCool> ml: spec alignment
10:36:47 <McCool> ... binding template, ege has looked into
10:37:14 <McCool> ... mccool still has some open issues on discovery
10:37:52 <kaz> i|spec alignment|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22spec+alignment%22 spec alignment issues
10:38:01 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
10:38:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:38:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/07-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
10:38:40 <mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/731
10:38:44 <McCool> ml: see PR 731, addressing issue 616
10:39:06 <McCool> ... also did some cleanup to get rid of an informative note
10:39:26 <kaz> i/alignment issues/topic: Spec alignment/
10:39:37 <kaz> i/731/subtopic: PR 731/
10:39:44 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
10:40:08 <McCool> ... just an outdated reference to use case process
10:40:24 <McCool> ml: propose merging and closing related issue
10:40:39 <McCool> mm: ok
10:40:41 <McCool> ml: done
10:40:50 <kaz> s/731/731 PR 731 - fixing issue 616/
10:41:08 <McCool> ml: next is issue 674, aligning terminology
10:41:32 <McCool> ... is still a problem with a few things, like "virtual thing", which is used inconsistently
10:41:48 <kaz> i/issue 674/subtopic: Issue 674/
10:42:30 <McCool> mm: real issue is normative docs, things like use case doc we can clean up later
10:42:48 <McCool> ... but if discovery and arch are inconsistent, that is a problem for our schedule
10:43:19 <kaz> i|issue 674|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/674 Issue 674 - Review use cases document / align terminology / identify gaps|
10:44:08 <McCool> ml: propose closeing 674, then work on other issues that are aiming to make each normative doc consistent with architecture
10:44:18 <McCool> s/closeing/closing.
10:45:41 <McCool> mm: regarding discovery, one issue I am aware of is use of "producer", etc.
10:45:59 <McCool> topic: testing
10:46:16 <mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/729
10:46:31 <McCool> ml: created small issues, e.g. update readme
10:47:25 <kaz> -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/aeae0b90e29a01aae6500e63785c3b6c0f86eab5/testing/inputs/templates/report.html rendered version of the draft implementation report for WoT Architecture 1.1
10:50:53 <McCool> mm: some other minor things in the report to fix, will do another bugfix pass soon; impl sections, automated testing, etc
10:51:10 <McCool> ... also ignore the staticly links, they are out of date now
10:51:45 <McCool> ... need to delete some extra files that are not needed anymore, eg. test specs
10:51:51 <McCool> topic: contributions
10:52:06 <McCool> ml: pr 730, fixes a respec error; merging
10:52:51 <kaz> i/pr 730/subtopic: PR 730/
10:53:09 <kaz> i|pr 730|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/730 PR 730 - fix respec error on producer|
10:55:30 <McCool> ml: also producer is not referenced, but can be linked from S&P
10:55:42 <McCool> mm: I can fix that then when I make my PR for that section
10:56:08 <McCool> ml: PR 728, some review comments
10:56:32 <kaz> i/PR 728/subtopic: 728/
10:56:42 <McCool> ... is a comment about "industrial controllers", but that is beyond telemetry
10:56:53 <kaz> i|PR 728|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/728 PR 728 - Draft telemetry section|
10:57:14 <McCool> ... ege also commented that term "bearer" should be changed to "communication channels"
10:59:25 <McCool> mm: small typo noted (wont't), but ok with merging
10:59:34 <kaz> q+
10:59:51 <kaz> ack k
10:59:58 <McCool> ml: ok, will merge
11:00:03 <McCool> ml: aob?
11:01:25 <kaz> none
11:01:26 <kaz> [adjourned]
11:01:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:01:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/07-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz
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