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14:14:45 <Steven> RRSAgent, please make logs public
14:15:04 <Steven> Meeting: ixml community group
14:15:16 <Steven> Chair: Steven Pemberton
14:15:43 <John> Scribe: John = John Lumley
14:15:44 <Steven> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:15:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-ixml-minutes.html Steven
14:16:54 <John> regrets: Michael
14:17:38 <John> present: John, Steven
14:18:14 <Steven> Regrets: Michael
14:18:46 <Steven> s/Regrets: Michael//
14:20:07 <John> previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2022/03/29-ixml-minutes.html
14:20:22 <John> RRSAgent, generate minutes
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14:30:39 <John> present+: norm, bethan
14:31:29 <Steven> RRSAgent, generate minutes
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14:33:37 <John> present+: Tomos Hillman, Norm Tovey-Walsh, Bethan Tovey-Walsh
14:34:07 <John> Topic: Agenda - summary of open issues
14:34:07 <Steven> Agend: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Apr/0011
14:34:16 <Steven> s/Agend/Agenda/
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14:35:46 <Steven> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/18
14:36:25 <John> Subtopic: Issue #18 (rule names and XML names) - Steven - now done - CLOSED
14:37:14 <John> Subtopic: Issue #20 (Grammars to accept and reject) - Steven - should now be pushed to GIT hub.
14:37:15 <Steven> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/20
14:38:14 <John> ... Done - CLOSED
14:38:35 <John> Subtopic: Issue #21 - done - CLOSED
14:39:03 <John> Subtopic: Issue #23 - same as #21 - Done - CLOSED
14:39:26 <John> Subtopic: Issue #25 - in progress
14:39:41 <John> Subtopic: Issue #31 - Done - CLOSED
14:40:08 <John> Subtopic: Issue #33 - Done - CLOSED
14:40:29 <John> Subtopic: Issue #47 (Wll formedness) - Done - CLOSED
14:41:33 <John> Subtopic: Issue #48 ('s' and 'S' - optional and required whitespace) - Steven - will update
14:41:49 <John> s/Wll/Well/
14:42:49 <John> Bethan: some accessibility issues for upper and lower case differences
14:43:07 <John> ... Wil open an issue
14:43:27 <John> Subtopic: Issue #53 (Tmarks) - Done - CLOSED
14:44:32 <John> Subtopic: Issue #50 (Characters or octets) - Stven believes it is covered by explicit UTF - Done - CLOSED
14:45:34 <John> Subtopic: Issue #57 ('s' missing in set, between and after members)
14:46:02 <John> Action Steven: solve Issue #57
14:47:13 <John> Subtopic: Issue #59 - (Double operator in separator operator - '**', '++') - Steven happy either way
14:49:37 <John> Norm: Syd Bauman reviewed and said yes. General agreement that it is probably a good idea to avoid overloading the '*' or '+' operators
14:50:02 <John> All agreed that it has consensus
14:50:35 <John> Action Steven: implemment '**' and '++' as separator infix operators
14:50:47 <John> s/mment/ment/
14:51:27 <John> s/Stven/Steven/
14:52:42 <John> Subtopic: Issue #44 (Error message/code proposal)
14:54:06 <John> Action Norm: Add the error code linkages to the spec.
14:55:43 <John> Subtopic: Issue #61 (Errors in a namespace) - we should specify that the ixml namespace must be used if a namespace is required
14:55:53 <John> Action Norm: to add prose to this effect
14:56:05 <John> RRSAgent, generate minutes
14:56:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/04/05-ixml-minutes.html John
14:56:45 <John> Subtopic: Issue #58 ( Pull request for test cases - added some that succeeded!)
14:57:31 <John> Topic: Dropping Pragmas for Version 1
15:00:05 <John> Agreed that pragma inclusion is to be dropped for version 1, given that timescales are pressing and we really don't want to rush through topics that need a careful study
15:01:00 <John> Action Tom: start email discussion on namespaces for the coming week
15:01:12 <John> Topic: Insertions
15:01:41 <John> Norm: Strong preference for using + as the character for insertion
15:02:23 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2022Mar/0015.html
15:02:49 <John> https://github.com/invisibleXML/ixml/issues/60
15:03:35 <John> Steven: '^' worked just as well.
15:03:53 <John> Norm: happy to go with the flow.
15:04:16 <John> s/well/ well and implies insertion...
15:04:32 <John> s/well/ well and implies insertion.../
15:04:53 <John> Bethan: some notion of set negation....
15:05:02 <norm> Clearly we should use insertion: ⎀
15:07:09 <John> Bethan: Any reason not to use '&' - but of course it would be ugly in XML
15:07:31 <John> Action Steven: Add insertions in the specification
15:07:47 <John> RRSAgent, generate minutes
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15:10:06 <John> Scribe for next meeting: JL
15:10:23 <John> RRSAgent, generate minutes
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