12:59:01 RRSAgent has joined #wot-pf 12:59:01 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/03/30-wot-pf-irc 12:59:09 meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testing 12:59:46 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Fady_Salama, Kunihiko_Toumura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tomoaki_Mizushima 13:01:04 present- David_Ezell 13:02:25 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_30.03.2022 13:04:57 Mizushima has joined #wot-pf 13:08:05 ktoumura has joined #wot-pf 13:08:09 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 13:08:43 q+ 13:10:15 q- 13:10:19 scribenick: kaz 13:10:30 topic: Minutes 13:10:39 -> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-pf-minutes.html Mar-23 13:10:42 approved 13:10:54 topic: Manual CSV 13:11:04 dape has joined #wot-pf 13:11:16 fs: not sure what to do 13:11:39 ... next week, will give a demo on how to do with Ege's help 13:11:42 q+ 13:11:46 mm: 2 questions 13:11:50 ... template updated? 13:12:25 fs: that's my 2nd point here 13:12:40 ... we need clearer pipeline 13:13:38 ... things are always changing 13:14:20 ... need to clarify which assertions are automatic and which are manual 13:14:33 mm: that's the first issue 13:14:50 ... 2nd issue is that manual assertions are not tested automatically 13:15:15 q? 13:16:37 ack k 13:17:34 kaz: not sure what we want to do today 13:17:49 ... should clarify what is done during he March Testfest and what is not done yet first 13:18:27 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/280 Issue 280 - Testfest 2022-03 Followup 13:18:35 mm: (shows the followup issue) 13:18:45 kaz: yes, we should start with this followup issue 13:19:50 fs: we still need some more PRs for manual CSVs 13:20:43 q+ Fady's screen fonts are very small 13:20:44 kaz: so you both would like to start with the 5th point of manual CSVs for TD? 13:20:59 mm: yeah 13:21:18 kaz: do you mean manual CSVs for TD? 13:21:22 mm: yeah 13:21:41 ... manual CSVs for TD 13:21:48 ... there was some confusion 13:22:32 ... would like Fady and Ege to generate a list they're handling 13:23:14 kaz: Fady, can you show the situation? 13:23:31 fs: would like to wait until next week 13:23:49 mm: would like to see the list of assertions we tested 13:23:54 s/tested/tested too/ 13:24:27 kaz: in that case, what should be done today? 13:24:38 mm: nothing really... 13:25:04 kaz: in that case, can we quickly skim the other topics instead? 13:25:06 mm: yeah 13:25:11 ... we can try the 4th point 13:25:21 ... "Implementation report drafts" 13:25:51 ... structure of the wot-testing repo 13:26:11 q? 13:26:39 https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1451 13:26:51 https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/5e9f15c8f62792c8ef8063620bbfa3fa98d521ed/testing/report11.html 13:27:03 i/1451/topic: Draft implementation report for TD/ 13:27:10 mm: rendered version above 13:27:23 ... a lot of features passed 13:27:35 ... we have 11 different directories 13:27:40 ... gaps include JSON pointer 13:27:48 ... need some example for that 13:28:11 ... some weird corner cases there 13:29:04 ... also some of the features should have more results 13:29:22 ... like td-additionalExpectedResponse-contentType 13:30:02 ... td-context-default-language-direction-script to be tracked down 13:30:14 ... multi-language support 13:31:32 kaz: after checking the results and the script, if there are any features missing implementations, we need to ask people to provide implementations for those features 13:31:37 mm: right 13:31:55 ... there a lot of missing implementations for Thing Model 13:32:16 sk: can the tests already check TM features? 13:32:26 ... kind of surprised with the current results... 13:32:29 mm: yeah 13:33:01 kaz: please check the script and the results directories again 13:33:03 mm: yeah 13:33:14 ... looks suspicious to me too 13:33:51 ... then we have the section for manual assertions 13:33:56 ... section 8.2 13:34:09 ... need to check the results for that too 13:34:42 topic: Draft implementation report for Architecture 13:34:48 cris_ has joined #wot-pf 13:35:59 mm: (generates a rendered version locally) 13:36:08 ... need to update the source files 13:36:18 ... 11 results there 13:36:25 ... some of them overlap 13:36:43 kaz: because they use the same code base? 13:36:45 mm: right 13:37:11 ... also something add happening within the HTML 13:37:22 ... look at that again 13:37:56 ... (shows the text on implementations) 13:38:16 kaz: those descriptions are imported from the testimonial texts. right? 13:38:19 mm: yeah 13:38:59 ... (shows wot-architecture/testing/inputs/impls/hitachi.html 13:39:06 s/html/html) 13:39:16 ... need to move the content back to the wot-testing repo 13:39:27 s/html)/html on his PC)/ 13:39:57 ... (then shows wot-testing/events/222.03.Online/Architecture/impls/ditto.html) 13:40:04 ... will update the content 13:40:17 topic: Draft implementation report for Discovery 13:40:48 mm: have similar problem with generating the rendered version... 13:41:00 ... (shows locally generated HTML) 13:41:09 ... we do have 3 implementations 13:41:20 ... need some work to clean the results 13:41:33 ... 3 directory implementations already 13:41:44 ... but missing implementations for clients 13:41:59 q+ 13:42:38 kaz: maybe it would be better to split the result page into two parts, client and directory 13:42:45 mm: yeah, that's true 13:42:48 ack k 13:43:15 ... auto and manual are still kind of mixed up 13:43:24 ... some of the features are new 13:43:40 ... have not checked SPARQL features, etc. 13:44:42 kaz: if you fix the script based on the TD results, it would be beneficial to the results of Architecture and Discovery too. right? 13:44:46 mm: yeah, definitely 13:45:16 file:///Users/mmccool/Downloads/report.html#automated_validation_results 13:46:00 kaz: maybe it would make sense for you (McCool), Fady and Ege to have preparatory chat before the next call on April 6 13:46:07 mm: could have some chat 13:46:24 ... but Fady and Ege are understanding what they need to do 13:46:44 kaz: yeah 13:46:59 ... my point is get well-prepared before the next call :) 13:47:04 mm: ok 13:47:25 ... if we time, would try to update the results before hand 13:47:39 ... let me capture the points within Issue 280 13:49:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/280 Issue 280 - Testfest 2022-03 Followup 13:51:39 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/280#issuecomment-1083166767 McCool's comment on TODOs 13:51:50 mm: Fady, do you have any additional topics in your mind? 13:55:59 (some more discussion on the TODOs) 13:56:09 mm: people can provide updated TDs 13:56:37 kaz: do you want people to submit updated TDs before the next Plugfest call or after the next call? 13:56:47 mm: either is fine 13:56:57 [adjourned] 13:57:06 rrsagent, draft make log public 13:57:06 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft make log public', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:57:16 rrsagent, make log public 13:57:56 s/rrsagent, draft make log public// 13:58:01 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:58:01 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/30-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz 16:04:30 Zakim has left #wot-pf