10:03:12 RRSAgent has joined #wot-arch 10:03:12 logging to https://www.w3.org/2022/03/24-wot-arch-irc 10:03:32 meeting: WoT Architecture 10:05:07 McCool has joined #wot-arch 10:07:13 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima 10:07:15 q+ 10:07:22 Mizushima has joined #wot-arch 10:09:25 https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md 10:09:25 ktoumura has joined #wot-arch 10:09:33 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 10:10:03 topic: minutes 10:10:05 scribenick: McCool 10:10:19 ml: let's review March 10 minutes... 10:10:33 i|let's|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/10-wot-arch-minutes.html Mar-10| 10:10:56 i/extension/topic: agenda/ 10:11:21 ... looked at draft impl report, merged three PRs, looked at some issues, terminology, scripting API (partial TD) 10:11:34 i/topic: minutes/kaz: note that we need to think about the updated publication timeline again./ 10:11:41 ml: if no objections... 10:11:45 ... approved 10:11:50 topic: schedule 10:11:57 s|https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md Extension plan| 10:11:59 kaz: we need to update this every couple of weeks 10:12:34 i|we need|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/charters/wg-2021-extension-plan.md Extension plan| 10:12:38 ktoumura has joined #wot-arch 10:13:38 ... CR candidate is March 30, probably too close, let's review at end of call 10:15:44 topic: PR 723 10:15:45 https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/723 10:15:56 mm: need to fix directory, give me a sec 10:16:16 topic: Implementation report 10:16:26 s/723/723 PR 723 - Answers to Security and Privacy Questionnaire/ 10:16:32 s/https/-> https/ 10:17:08 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/707 PR 707 - WIP: Implementation Report 10:17:31 mm: need to do some update for the script 10:17:37 ... not really ready for review yet 10:17:49 ... but Editors to review it 10:17:59 s/to review/to start to review/ 10:18:17 ... maybe need to talk about sections of assertions 10:18:30 i/Implemen/scribnick: kaz/ 10:19:02 ml: all the TDs are not necessarily for TD 1.1 10:19:17 mm: reasonable to see compatibility as well 10:19:32 ... 2 sections for testimonials 10:20:17 sebastian has joined #wot-arch 10:20:35 ml: how to handle implementations from non-Members? 10:20:50 mm: there are issues of categorizations as well 10:21:13 present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura 10:21:46 ... we're not asking for testimonials 10:21:59 ... (from non-Members?) 10:22:36 ml: for example, we should remove SmartThings, who already left W3C 10:22:55 mm: can delete the resources 10:23:14 ml: yes, please delete the resources for non-Members 10:23:36 mm: on the other hand, how to deal with compatibility tests is an issue 10:23:53 ml: (goes through the assertions) 10:24:32 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/707/files#diff-c2e068821dcedb89b0c01d0fdedbbfc51f8016625f652e73e0c0697f5a2c65e6 assertions.csv 10:25:44 ml: (also shows the Issue 725 to check the progress) 10:25:58 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/725 Issue 725 - Implementation report - remaining tasks 10:26:18 ml: (adds several new check points) 10:26:36 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/725#issue-1179244275 check points 10:27:27 -> https://cdn.statically.io/gh/w3c/wot-architecture/aeae0b90e29a01aae6500e63785c3b6c0f86eab5/testing/inputs/templates/report.html Rendered version of the draft implementation report 10:27:34 ml: who should be listed as the Editors? 10:27:49 mm: should remove people who have already left 10:28:20 q+ 10:29:00 ack k 10:29:15 kaz: Editors should be those who edit the document 10:29:33 ... people who made contributions for implementations should be Contributors 10:30:16 tou: Editors of the Architecture spec should be included 10:30:19 ml: agree 10:30:34 mm: will update it 10:30:52 ... Michael Lagally, Matsukura-san, Toumura-san and myself 10:31:26 matsu: would like to make contribution but I'm not really active recently... 10:31:40 mm: you could add implementation reports 10:32:15 ml: if you could provide an updated report... 10:32:27 mm: there is a template on the wot-testing repo 10:32:30 matsu: ok 10:32:44 ... will provide additional information 10:33:09 ml: need to ask ERCIM about their contribution 10:33:54 mm: should ask all the previous contributors about their intention 10:34:06 ml: (updates the check points issue) 10:35:55 topic: contributions 10:36:25 scribenick: McCool 10:38:18 subtopic: PR 722 10:38:31 ml: move device categories to terminology: merged 10:38:46 subtopic: PR 721 10:39:13 ml: updates Thing Description Directory terminology 10:39:19 subtopic: PR 720 10:39:27 ml: revise list of editors - merging 10:39:39 subtopic: PR 701 10:40:57 mm: do we want to use report11 or report? 10:41:30 ml: either is fine, let's merge it 10:41:43 mm: sure, and look at this again later when the impl report is more up to date 10:43:13 subtopic: PR 603 10:43:54 ml: has been a draft for a while, let's merge, take remaining tasks into issues 10:44:07 mm: ok, that at least cleans up some terminoligy 10:44:38 https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/issues/724 10:44:46 ml: will track remaining tasks in issue 724 10:44:57 subtopic: PR 723 10:45:12 mm: ready to merge 10:45:14 ml: merging 10:47:02 subtopic: PR 710 10:47:21 ml: for explainer 10:47:28 mm: main thing to do is decide where 10:48:22 i|move device|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/722 PR 722 - Merge "4. Device Categories" section into "3. Terminology" section| 10:48:56 i|updates Thing|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/721 PR 721 - Change "Thing Directory" to "Thing Description Directory"| 10:49:30 i|revise list of edi|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/720 PR 720 - Update list of editors| 10:50:03 i|do we want to use|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/701 PR 701 - Update Implementation Report link in SOTD| 10:50:37 mm: suggest we merge to at least create the directory, then I will do another PR to update 10:50:39 ml: ok 10:50:49 i|has been a draft for|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/603 PR 603 - Define and Discuss "Hubs"| 10:51:02 topic: editorial notes 10:51:27 i|ready to merge|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/723 PR 723 - Answers to Security and Privacy Questionnaire| 10:51:57 i|for explainer|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-architecture/pull/710 PR 710 - WIP: Explainer for Architecture 1.1| 10:52:14 rrsagent, make log public 10:52:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 10:52:40 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/24-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 10:52:43 mm: some are useful content that should be merged, some are issues that should be resolved (and removed) 10:53:24 ml: some are placeholders, e.g. for empty sections 10:53:57 mm: we might have to remove some of the empty sections if we run out of time (and if they aren't important) 10:56:15 topic: security 10:57:22 mm: some of the text there should be actual assertions, and the section made normative 10:58:28 ml: does impact our schedule; how long? 10:58:48 mm: mechanical part by next week, more if we have content changes or reviews 10:59:48 ... given four weeks, we can do updates and security review 11:00:02 ml: ok, that means CR candidate end of May 11:02:10 mm: as long as we are done before July 30 (when Discovery and Profiles are due) we should be ok 11:02:30 ml: let's put the schedule conversation at the top of the agenda for the next call 11:03:30 [adjourned] 11:03:39 rrsagent, make log public 11:03:43 rrsagent, draft minutes 11:03:43 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/24-wot-arch-minutes.html kaz 12:00:28 sebastian has joined #wot-arch 12:31:14 Zakim has left #wot-arch