IRC log of miniapp on 2022-03-24

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present+ qing, xfq, zitao, tengyuan, Xiangyang_Yao, martin, Xiaoping_Zhao, Changrong_Ju
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zitao: lifecycle
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qing: propose that we merge https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/21
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... any objections?
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zitao: +1 to merge
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scribe: xfq
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chair: zitao
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rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/24-miniapp-minutes.html xfq
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/19
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qing: not urgent
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... we can keep it for another month
12:05:38 [xiaoqian]
present+
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... I just added some privacy considerations
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zitao: i agree privacy is important
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... not just lifecycle
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... also for other WG documents
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/pull/20
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qing: we haven't talked to mobile a11y tf
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-lifecycle/issues/22
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qing: define a unified interface between miniapp and native
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... i want to hear your opinions
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zitao: i reviewed this issue
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... I think it makes sense
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... if some developer develops a miniapp but does not have a standardized lifecycle
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... it's not good for wide deployment of miniapp standards
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... I also want to hear the comments from people who are familiar with existing Web technologies
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qing: miniapp is not just for "super apps", it's also for operating systems
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... I'm not sure this unified interface is for miniapp developers or miniapp vendors
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zitao: yeah, we need to further discuss this
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qing: I will further keep this open
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zitao: manifest
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martin: no new PRs
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... if there's no objection I think we can merge https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/40
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q?
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martin: next is https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/pull/41
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... xfq added a comment
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... I made some changes
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... unless you have objections I think we can merge this PR
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[silence]
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martin: we can keep iterate these sections
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/issues/43
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martin: i think it's important
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... it's something we can explore
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... imo we can do it
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zitao: i think this comment makes sense
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... since our goal is to harmonize with PWA
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... we can also solicit comments from miniapp vendors
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... to see if they agree
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martin: if there's no objection we can explore this
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zitao: packaging
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martin: https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/45
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... editorial changes
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... approved by xfq
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... unless there are objections we can merge it
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/pull/47
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martin: comments from xfq
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... I made the changes
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... unless there are objections we can merge it
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https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/51
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martin: I assigned it to me
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... will propose a new PR
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zitao: addressing
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dan: it's a note now
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... we need more public review
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xfq: @@
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zitao: languages @@
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xfq: we should either add content or remove the ack section
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... @@
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zitao: white paper
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martin: i added some text
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... will add some input
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... but we'd better do it when it's in html
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zitao: the image looks better now
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... i added a Implementation, converting tool section
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... xfq, do you think it's ready to be converted to html?
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xfq: i think so
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zitao: tpac
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... we also discussed this in the CG meeting
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... i hope we can find a place in China to have an offline meeting
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qing: the deadline of the tpac survey is soon
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... we need to decide
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... before next week
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... i think we're unlikely to go to Vancouver
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... do you agree?
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zitao: i agree
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qing: any other comments?
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zitao: agree with qing's comments
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qing: if there's no objections i'll fill in the form on behalf of the WG
12:42:33 [xiaoqian]
xfq: we need to find a way to test the implementation of our specs
12:42:52 [xiaoqian]
zitao: agree with xfq, we need to make a plan
12:43:01 [xiaoqian]
xfq: I'll file an issue later
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scribe+ xiaoqian
12:43:20 [xiaoqian]
zitao: yes, that will help us move forward
12:43:25 [martin]
+1 to test suite discussion
12:43:50 [xfq]
canfeng: i wonder if there's any examples from other WGs for testing
12:45:14 [xiaoqian]
xfq: yes, the WPT project
12:45:26 [xiaoqian]
canfeng: who maintains this project?
12:45:35 [xiaoqian]
xfq: browser vendors, the W3C members
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xiaoqian: xfq can give a 5-10 min talk to introduce wpt next month
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zitao: next meeting, Apr 28
12:48:15 [martin]
+1 Apr 28
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