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13:13:38 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_Koster, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:13:47 <cris_> topic: previous minutes
13:14:00 <cris_> mc: they seem good to me
13:14:08 <kaz> i|they|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/18-wot-pf-minutes.html Mar-18|
13:14:13 <cris_> ... any objections to publish these?
13:15:00 <cris_> s/previous minutes/previous minutes PlugFest/
13:15:08 <cris_> topic: previous minutes
13:15:15 <cris_> mc: also this one are good
13:15:21 <cris_> ... ok accepted
13:15:33 <cris_> topic: testfest follow-up
13:15:41 <cris_> mc: no update on the implementation report
13:15:48 <kaz> i|also|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/09-wot-pf-minutes.html Mar-9|
13:15:53 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:15:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:15:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:15:58 <cris_> ... I'm waiting for Ege about the report
13:16:12 <cris_> ... there are still some issues
13:16:12 <cris_> ... about discovery
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13:18:06 <cris> mc: I'll clean up the tooling for generate those reports
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13:19:39 <kaz> s/topic: previous minutes/topic: minutes from the previous weekly call/
13:19:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:19:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:20:15 <cris> topic: issue 267
13:20:18 <kaz> chair: McCool
13:20:31 <cris> cris: tried to model gas sensor using MQTT ontology
13:20:57 <kaz> s/previous minutes PlugFest/minutes from the last day of the Plugfest/
13:21:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:21:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:21:18 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest/Testing
13:21:18 <cris> mc: about mqtt there's a standard for mqtt discovery
13:21:36 <cris> ... in my setup I have some example of this
13:22:14 <kaz> i|no update on the|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/280 Issue 280 - Testfest 2022-03 Followup|
13:22:27 <cris> ... not all mqtt devices follow this standard
13:22:34 <cris> ... I was trying to automate that
13:22:46 <cris> s/that/automate TD generation based on that/
13:23:12 <kaz> i|tried to model|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/267 Issue 267 - Project (2022-03 Plugfest): TDs for Commercial Devices|
13:23:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:23:41 <cris> mc: another interesting topic is that the devices that I'm using use both mqtt and http
13:24:06 <cris> mk: I did that early on, pretty interesting topic
13:24:21 <cris> ... TD makes everything easy to do
13:24:59 <cris> cris: good points
13:25:32 <kaz> i/they seem good/scribenick: cris_/
13:25:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:25:52 <cris> mc: in my experimental set up I also found some interesting metadata
13:26:04 <cris> ... for example device_class
13:26:14 <cris> ... it defines a bunch of defaults
13:26:35 <cris> ... very similar to oneDM for models or components
13:26:46 <cris> ... I want to understand this
13:26:55 <cris> mk: is there any json schema?
13:27:00 <cris> mc: no, to be done
13:27:44 <cris> mc: there's a web server component that we can use to get inspiration about the auto-generation script
13:28:00 <cris> ... there's also a c++ API
13:35:33 <cris> cris: async actions with MQTT are challenging using the current TD features
13:35:43 <cris> ... I model what I could
13:35:45 <cris> ... pretty good so fare
13:35:52 <cris> ... but we need to test it
13:36:13 <cris> mk: do we have an issue about mqtt connection?
13:37:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:38:14 <cris> cris: for the record this is the issue about connection: https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/878
13:39:02 <cris> mc: what about last-will and testament ?
13:39:49 <cris> mk: it is something from a lower level
13:40:09 <cris> ... applications would not bother to know this details
13:42:29 <cris> mc: there might some issues about endpoints urls in forms. Architecture document might have some assertions about that
13:42:33 <cris> ... we have to review it
13:43:43 <cris> topic: Demo
13:44:10 <cris> <Michael showing devices and the demo on screen>
13:45:03 <cris> mc: educational device with different sensors and peripherals
13:45:36 <cris> ... also additional extension modules
13:45:55 <cris> ... I also have a the new version
13:46:18 <cris> ... for the demo I'll use three of them
13:48:17 <cris> cris: really nice devices and I like the demo idea
13:48:27 <cris> mk: nice I like that too
13:49:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:50:33 <cris> q?
13:51:39 <kaz> [adjourned]
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