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12:01:38 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
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12:06:07 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html
12:06:44 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
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12:07:42 <kaz> scribenick: mlagally_
12:08:06 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#23_March_2022
12:08:32 <mlagally_> topic: quick updates
12:08:43 <mlagally_> mmc: time zone changes in Europe next week
12:08:47 <kaz> present+ Daniel_Peintner
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12:08:57 <kaz> q+
12:08:57 <mlagally_> ... no cancellations
12:09:07 <kaz> ack k
12:09:16 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:09:22 <mlagally_> topic: minutes review
12:09:33 <mlagally_> ... any issues -> (none)
12:09:42 <mlagally_> ... approved
12:09:45 <kaz> i|any|-> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html Mar-16|
12:09:52 <mlagally_> topic: quick updates (2)
12:09:54 <kaz> s/... any/mm: any/
12:10:01 <kaz> s/topic: Minutes//
12:10:09 <dape> q+
12:10:14 <mlagally_> ... download the ics files from the calendar
12:10:16 <kaz> s/(2)/- revisited/
12:10:28 <kaz> s/... down/mm: down/
12:11:18 <mlagally_> ... Sebastian cannot make TD call today, we have AB members joining the call, how to handle?
12:11:19 <dape> ack dape
12:11:41 <mlagally_> ... who can attend?
12:12:21 <mlagally_> sk: there may be some confusion, the call takes place in the 2nd hour
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12:12:49 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:13:07 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:13:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:13:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:13:18 <mlagally_> ... editors sync call had low attendance, Kaz showed his tools presentation
12:13:39 <mlagally_> ... please review these slides, they are very useful
12:13:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:13:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:14:02 <mlagally_> dape: calendar invite showed as cancelled
12:14:08 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi
12:14:14 <mlagally_> ml: mine also showed it to be cancelled
12:15:01 <mlagally_> mmc: will look into it and send updates
12:15:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:15:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:15:29 <mlagally_> mizushima: Japanese CG will have Use Cases event this Friday, based on Use Case Note
12:15:48 <mlagally_> ... will discuss implementations based on Echonet, Takenaka and others
12:16:02 <mlagally_> topic: Use Cases
12:16:02 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:16:04 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:16:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:16:39 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
12:16:39 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Cristiano_Aguzzi
12:17:43 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
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12:19:10 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/coverage.csv coverage.csv to see the Use Cases coverage
12:19:16 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:19:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:19:39 <kaz> ml: (describes the CSV)
12:19:49 <kaz> ... each TF moderator should fill it out
12:19:59 <kaz> i/descri/scribenick: kaz/
12:20:54 <mlagally_> topic: TPAC survey
12:20:58 <kaz> scribenick: mlagally_
12:21:17 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/tpac2022-fall-wot/results WoT survey
12:21:24 <mlagally_> ... We got 7 out of 11 "likely" answers
12:21:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:21:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
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12:22:27 <mlagally_> ... will report "somewhat likely", please let me know if you are concerned
12:22:50 <mlagally_> ... Decision process will be deferred
12:23:11 <mlagally_> ... Discovery is behind schedule, needs an additional context, consider includin in TD context file
12:23:20 <mlagally_> ... otherwise we need a separate file
12:23:43 <mlagally_> ... several PRs for cleanup of security / privacy considerations
12:23:53 <mlagally_> ... some for TD are quite large, please review
12:24:30 <mlagally_> ... Security TF reviewed questionnaire for S/P review, I will have a new PR for architecture
12:25:13 <mlagally_> ... will be ready to merge by tomorrow
12:25:21 <mlagally_> topic: Explainers
12:26:20 <mlagally_> ... there's a WIP for TD explainer, Sebastian, please review and clarify relationship with TD1.0
12:26:33 <mlagally_> sk: there's a separate section for it
12:27:06 <kaz> i|there's|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/pull/1397 wot-thing-description PR 1397 - WIP: Explainer 1.1|
12:27:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:27:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:27:55 <mlagally_> mmc: we need another sentence to explain how compatibility works
12:27:59 <mlagally_> sk ok
12:28:06 <mlagally_> s/sk/sk:/
12:28:43 <mlagally_> mmc: We still need explainers for Architecture, Discovery and Profiles
12:28:57 <mlagally_> ... we can point to other explainers for details
12:29:23 <kaz> i|there's|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/explainer11/explainer/Explainer11.md rendered MD|
12:29:26 <mlagally_> ... Architecture will do CR soon, we need to have the explainer soon.
12:29:38 <mlagally_> ... I'll take a stab at the first draft of that.
12:29:47 <mlagally_> topic: Marketing
12:30:18 <mlagally_> ... there are still some todo items
12:30:27 <mlagally_> ... we had no call today
12:31:11 <mlagally_> topic: test fest
12:31:37 <mlagally_> ... I have created draft implementation reports, looking for results
12:31:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:31:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:31:57 <mlagally_> ... we are still cleaning up implementation descriptions
12:32:09 <mlagally_> ... see various issues in wot-testing
12:32:23 <mlagally_> ... hope to clean up in today's testing call
12:32:42 <mlagally_> ... we may need another test fest, we should keep devices up, if possible
12:32:53 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
12:32:53 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Daniel_Peintner, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Cristiano_Aguzzi,
12:32:56 <Zakim> ... Michael_Koster
12:33:01 <mlagally_> ... feel free to provide new results, let's get the tests ongoing
12:35:21 <mlagally_> ... for Architecture we ask members to manually fill in their assertions so we can generate the report
12:35:29 <mlagally_> topic: testimonials
12:36:12 <mlagally_> ... these need to be approved by the AC rep, these should be submitted to the testing repository
12:36:43 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2022.03.Online/Architecture/Testimonials
12:37:14 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
12:37:16 <mlagally_> ... testimonials are per organisation,  suggest to check it in as a draft and get it approved by your AC rep
12:37:37 <kaz> s/Testimonials/Testimonials e.g., the Testimonials for WoT Architecture/
12:37:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:37:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:37:42 <mlagally_> ... I'm restructuring the Implementation descriptions
12:39:49 <mlagally_> topic: liaisons
12:40:04 <mlagally_> ... we have an OPC meeting tomorrow
12:40:05 <kaz> q+
12:40:10 <kaz> ack d
12:40:12 <mlagally_> ... does it include OPC members?
12:40:35 <mlagally_> sk: no, it is WoT internal, need to discuss MoU and other topics
12:41:01 <kaz> ack k
12:41:19 <mlagally_> kaz: be aware that Liaisons are handled by liaison contacts, i.e. Dave Raggett from W3C, should also include OPC liaison at some point
12:41:25 <mlagally_> sk: yes, letS discuss tomorrow
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12:41:44 <mlagally_> topic: TF reports
12:41:54 <mlagally_> dape: no scripting call
12:42:02 <kaz> s/letS/let's/
12:42:45 <mlagally_> mmc: security TF: discussed security testing plan, need a concrete plan for testing this release
12:43:12 <mlagally_> ... will update the document
12:43:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:43:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:44:16 <mlagally_> discovery: still not normatively frozen, there may be new assertions, these may be asserted manually
12:44:21 <mlagally_> ... we are in good shape
12:46:01 <kaz> q+
12:46:03 <mlagally_> ml: profile: proposals for event models are being discussed
12:46:55 <mlagally_> mmc: I have some follow-up actions from the testfest, will share details in the testing call.
12:47:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/issues/280 wot-testing Issue 280 - Testfest 2022-03 Followup
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12:48:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:48:16 <dezell> present+ David_Ezell
12:48:30 <mlagally_> .. Let me show a demo of ESPHome and HomeAssistant
12:48:48 <sebastia_> I need to go
12:49:33 <kaz> topic: Reminder of the discussion with AB
12:49:53 <kaz> kaz: please join the call held in 2 hours!
12:50:09 <kaz> i/please/scribenick: kaz/
12:51:23 <dezell> q+
12:51:29 <kaz> s/I need to go//
12:51:30 <kaz> ack k
12:51:38 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:51:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:51:42 <McCool> q?
12:51:45 <kaz> ack d
12:53:42 <McCool> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/97fe8500-0d73-4762-92a3-2376ba13999e/20220323T100000?tz=Europe%2FAmsterdam
12:54:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:54:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:56:37 <kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfest call starts in 8 mins]
12:56:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:20:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:24:01 <kaz> chair: McCool/Sebastian
13:24:02 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:24:53 <kaz> i/they seem good/scribenick: cris_/
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