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13:46:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:46:09 <trackbot> Date: 23 March 2022
13:46:18 <Matthew_Atkinson> Chair: Matthew
13:46:20 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda?
13:46:28 <Matthew_Atkinson> zakim, clear the agenda
13:46:28 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:46:47 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
13:46:50 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
13:46:53 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
13:46:56 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
13:47:00 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned
13:47:03 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
13:47:06 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ CSUN Review
13:47:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
13:47:12 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update
13:47:14 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ Other Business
13:47:17 <Matthew_Atkinson> agenda+ be done
13:47:24 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+
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14:01:51 <Roy> agenda?
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14:05:41 <becky> scribe: becky
14:05:52 <becky> zakim, next item
14:05:52 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:05:55 <janina> present+
14:05:56 <David-Swallow> present+
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14:07:41 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : calls out email cross posted from RQTF - draft document circulated for review by APA about ethics in machine learning; will be review meetings week of April 4. Is a google doc, contact Matthew for a different format
14:08:19 <becky> janina: suspect there will be issues we want to make sure are covered; there will also be APIs related to this. I see this as an ongoing issues
14:08:24 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2022Mar/0004.html
14:08:27 <Joshue108> present+
14:08:44 <becky> janina: Open CFC on the COGA work statement, expires midnight Boston time tonight
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14:08:53 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+
14:09:25 <becky> janina: US is now fixed at -4 UTC, Europe has not adjusted yet so still some time differences
14:09:34 <becky> zakim, next item
14:09:34 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, becky
14:09:39 <Matthew_Atkinson> q?
14:10:02 <MichaelC> zakim, clear queue
14:10:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'clear queue', MichaelC
14:10:14 <Matthew_Atkinson> ack all
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14:10:22 <Matthew_Atkinson> ack kevin_
14:10:22 <Zakim> kevin_, you wanted to ask how significant the funding gap is that requires a separate partner and ask how we maintain a balance in member influence with some mebers being on the
14:10:25 <Zakim> ... board
14:10:25 <becky> ack eric
14:10:26 <Zakim> EricSiow, you wanted to react to dsinger to respond
14:10:27 <Matthew_Atkinson> ack laura
14:10:30 <Matthew_Atkinson> ack Judy
14:10:30 <Zakim> Judy, you wanted to briefly clarify the current system for external funding that only aligns with W3C membership goals and why that has been important and (imo) should continue to
14:10:31 <Matthew_Atkinson> ack tink
14:10:31 <becky> ack judy
14:10:32 <Matthew_Atkinson> q?
14:10:33 <Zakim> ... be so
14:11:09 <becky> zakim, next item
14:11:09 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:11:30 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/279
14:11:36 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/w3c.github.io/vc-wg-charter/
14:11:40 <becky> MichaelC : verifiable credentials - Lionel was going to look at that
14:11:56 <becky> Lionel: no progress due to CSUN
14:11:59 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/304
14:12:03 <MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/rdf-star-wg-charter/
14:13:15 <becky> MichaelC : RDF* working group - out growth of community group to extend RDF to provide a concise way to make statements about statements; not clear why that is needed. Believe it is out of our scope
14:13:38 <becky> MichaelC : group agrees to sign off on this item
14:13:42 <becky> zakim, next item
14:13:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:13:55 <Matthew_Atkinson> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-apa-minutes.html Matthew_Atkinson
14:13:59 <MichaelC> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/7732
14:14:16 <MichaelC> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/7707
14:14:28 <MichaelC> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/7708
14:14:48 <becky> MichaelC : 3 HTML issues raised to our attention; consider preventing page scroll when modal dialog is visible; clarify keyboard behavior for dialogs, address dialogs with large blocks of text
14:15:18 <becky> Janina: these make sense for APA to track
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14:16:02 <becky> MichaelC : SVG native and a11y apis - still open (due to CSUN distractions)
14:16:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:16:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> present?
14:16:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
14:16:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:16:49 <becky> MichaelC : waiting for follow up from ARIA group
14:16:57 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/41
14:17:31 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/41/files
14:19:15 <becky> MichaelC : add user customization section for imsc; updated the accessibility considerations sections; contains its original paragraph and user customization;
14:19:20 <becky> MichaelC : group agrees to close/sign off on the imsc one
14:19:24 <becky> zakim, next itme
14:19:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next itme', becky
14:19:28 <becky> zakim, next item
14:19:28 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:19:46 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/autoplay-detection/
14:20:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:20:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-apa-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:21:15 <becky> MichaelC : autoplay policy detection - provide web devs. to determine if auto play is allowed in different situations; short spec; can't tell if it defines the policy or if read an existing policy
14:22:19 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/fingerprinting-guidance/
14:22:22 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : doesn't seem to have reason for autoplay but just determining policy for it; might have fingerprinting issues
14:23:53 <becky> Janina: would formally object to allowing authors to override overplay - I can review and look for that; on the positive side, allowing further user agent control of autoplay (vs. the content author)
14:24:21 <becky> janina: is good
14:25:15 <becky> action: janina to review autoplay detection (https://www.w3.org/TR/autoplay-detection/) due 22/04/06
14:25:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2318 - Review autoplay detection (https://www.w3.org/tr/autoplay-detection/) due 22/04/06 [on Janina Sajka - due 2022-03-30].
14:25:32 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/media-source-2/
14:25:34 <becky> MichaelC : skipping CSS ones that are not new to us
14:26:02 <becky> MichaelC : media source trademark - extend media to support more use cases
14:26:14 <becky> janina: suspect many WCAG concerns
14:26:27 <becky> MichaelC : this is from the media working group
14:27:20 <becky> ACTION: janina to review media source (https://www.w3.org/TR/media-source-2/) 22/04/06
14:27:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2319 - Review media source (https://www.w3.org/tr/media-source-2/) 22/04/06 [on Janina Sajka - due 2022-03-30].
14:28:17 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : I can review from a color contrast / graphical elements perspective
14:29:17 <becky> MichaelC : we have some Web of things and CSS stuff that is dangling but have reviewed the new ones
14:29:21 <becky> zakim, next item
14:29:21 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:30:03 <becky> MichaelC : there are a few WebXR ones we wanted to further discuss at end of March 2022
14:31:02 <becky> MichaelC : Joshue108 did a review in Sept. and we never discussed
14:31:14 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Discovery
14:31:15 <becky> Joshue108 : will come next week prepared to dicuss
14:31:36 <becky> MichaelC : Web of Things discovery - Paul was going to review
14:32:26 <becky> MichaelC : doesn't seem to be urgent;
14:32:31 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/VISS_version_2_-_Core
14:32:59 <becky> MichaelC : VISS version 2 core - vehicle information service specification
14:33:17 <becky> Lionel_Wolberger : thought I handed off the vehicle stuff to Frederik?
14:33:37 <becky> MichaelC : will move to Fredrik
14:33:57 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Internationalization_Glossary
14:34:08 <becky> MichaelC : i18n glossary - assigned to Lionel
14:34:24 <becky> Lionel_Wolberger : will work to get that done for next week
14:34:28 <becky> zakim, next item
14:34:28 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:35:02 <becky> MichaelC : probably not useful because we use tracker
14:35:15 <becky> janina : not clear we have a replacement
14:35:54 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : we were going to consider using the wiki; will take it up with chairs and bring a proposal to the group
14:36:24 <becky> zakim, next item
14:36:24 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSUN Review -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:38:14 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : I met colleagues and friends in person that I have worked with for a while; also met some W3C colleagues; lots going on with XR and collaboration with W3C; many comments about how nice to meet in "3D"!
14:38:29 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : accessible escape room was great!
14:42:16 <becky> Lionel_Wolberger : yes, agree with Matthew's comments, AGWG was great; spoke with Brad from Sorenson; he educated me about the Deaf community; captions are not a substitute for Deaf - there is a lack of literacy, that is why ASL is so important; also learned about braille literacy as well.
14:43:38 <becky> janina: RQTF regularly has ASL and have regular participation from a Deaf professor from Gallaudet
14:46:14 <becky> Lionel_Wolberger : lip reading is not usable unless you have previously had hearing
14:46:40 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+ Fredrik
14:47:50 <becky> rrsagent, make minutes
14:47:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-apa-minutes.html becky
14:48:27 <becky> general discussion about how much fun karaoke was at CSUN!
14:49:35 <becky> janina: I think you might have seen multi-line braille displays at CSUN? I think they are coming to the market soon
14:50:24 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : another technology is emerging for braille displays will discuss with those interesed offline.  Called the Orbit display in US
14:51:15 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : also work going on relating to accessible tactile books
14:51:26 <becky> agenda ?
14:51:34 <becky> zakim, next item
14:51:34 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:51:49 <becky> zakim, close this item
14:51:49 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:51:50 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:51:50 <Zakim> 9. FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:51:58 <becky> zakim, next item
14:51:58 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:52:57 <becky> Joshue108 : no updates about FAST but did meet with AGWG recently and did workshop sessions on outcomes and guidance;
14:53:16 <becky> zakim, take up item 8
14:53:16 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:53:28 <Matthew_Atkinson> subtopic: Personalization
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14:53:48 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : lots of interaction with EO
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14:55:15 <becky> Lionel_Wolberger : went through process with EO for suggesting for naming; they came up with suggestion of ADAPT; New suggestion was APT
14:56:06 <becky> Matthew_Atkinson : no update from COGA - they did not meet
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14:56:13 <Matthew_Atkinson> subtopic: RQTF
14:56:14 <becky> topic: RQTF
14:56:28 <becky> s/topic/subtopic
14:57:32 <becky> janina: new CfC from RQTF early April for Synchronization A11y user requirements (SAUR); a second review of online meetings also coming soon
14:58:26 <becky> janina: will also be involved in reviewing ethics of Machine learning as discussed in the beginning of the meeting
14:58:54 <becky> rrsagent, make minutes
14:58:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/23-apa-minutes.html becky
14:59:22 <becky> zakim, next item
14:59:22 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- FAST and Maturity Model Deliverables Update -- taken up [from Matthew_Atkinson]
14:59:29 <becky> zakim, close this item
14:59:29 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:59:30 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:59:30 <Zakim> 10. Other Business [from Matthew_Atkinson]
15:00:08 <becky> zakim, bye
15:00:09 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Irfan_, mike_beganyi, janina, Matthew_Atkinson, david-swallow, Jonny_James, MichaelC, Joshue, becky, Lionel_Wolberger, PaulG,
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