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12:03:24 <kaz> meeting: WoT-IG/WG
12:03:52 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_McCool, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
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12:05:52 <sebastian> topic: minutes
12:06:17 <kaz> present+ Michael_Lgally, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner
12:08:00 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/03/09-wot-minutes.html March-9
12:08:11 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
12:08:43 <kaz> q+
12:10:52 <sebastian> MM: just to make clear that the decision about the Scripting API to change from "Note" to "Track Note" is deferred to next charter
12:11:24 <sebastian> ...any objection to publish the minutes?
12:11:25 <sebastian> no
12:11:29 <kaz> ack
12:11:34 <kaz> s/ack//
12:11:35 <kaz> ack k
12:11:36 <sebastian> topic: updates
12:12:14 <sebastian> subtopic: cancellation
12:12:28 <sebastian> MM: we will have the Discovery call in Monday
12:12:34 <sebastian> s/in/on
12:14:35 <sebastian> subtopic: Calendar
12:14:51 <sebastian> MM: there is a conflict with the Profile call
12:15:57 <sebastian> ... the entry at W3C calendar shows that this call will start next week
12:16:28 <sebastian> subtopic: AB meeting
12:17:00 <sebastian> MM: W3C LE like to join one of the WoT meetings
12:17:31 <sebastian> ... will register it to the WoT WG/IG calendars
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12:17:50 <sebastian> subtopic: WoT Japanese CG updates
12:17:54 <kaz> s/AB meeting/Meeting with AB on LE/
12:18:12 <Mizushima> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-jp-cg/blob/main/Event/20220311_3rd_WoT_and_ELWA_Study_Meeting/minutes.md Information of Event with ECHONET
12:18:39 <sebastian> Tomoaki: there was an event with ECHONET on March 11
12:18:41 <Mizushima> -> https://wot-jp-cg.connpass.com/event/242456/
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12:19:30 <kaz> s|56/|56 connpass site|
12:19:35 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-jp-cg/blob/main/Event/20220311_3rd_WoT_and_ELWA_Study_Meeting/minutes.md
12:19:39 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:19:45 <Mizushima> https://github.com/w3c/wot-jp-cg/blob/main/Event/20220311_3rd_WoT_and_ELWA_Study_Meeting/minutes.md
12:19:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:19:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:19:58 <Mizushima> https://wot-jp-cg.connpass.com/event/242456/
12:19:59 <sebastian> ... the minutes can be found here https://github.com/w3c/wot-jp-cg/blob/main/Event/20220311_3rd_WoT_and_ELWA_Study_Meeting/minutes.md
12:20:10 <Mizushima> https://wot-jp-cg.connpass.com/event/242456/
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12:20:38 <kaz> q+
12:21:01 <sebastian> Kaz: there is another event next week
12:22:14 <sebastian> MM: can we have a english version of the minutes?
12:22:15 <kaz> s|242456/|242456/ connpass site for the next event on WoT Use Cases on March 25|
12:22:38 <sebastian> ... I can also use google translate
12:22:58 <sebastian> subtopic: TPAC 2022
12:23:28 <kaz> s/a eng/an Eng/
12:23:34 <sebastian> MM: today we would expect the final responses
12:23:44 <sebastian> ... next week we will decide
12:24:11 <sebastian> topic: Rechartering and Charter Extensions
12:24:49 <sebastian> Kaz has reminded the reviewers for security and privacy directly again
12:25:34 <sebastian> MM: we will talk about the decision process for next charter
12:25:49 <sebastian> topic: Publication
12:26:51 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2022/WD-wot-thing-description11-20220311/ TD updated WD published on March 11
12:26:55 <sebastian> MM: Use case was published Mar-7 and TD WD on Mar-11
12:27:37 <sebastian> ... Discovery needs to be reviewed by TD guys specially about the namespace
12:28:08 <dape> q+
12:28:14 <kaz> ack k
12:28:22 <dape> ack dape
12:29:26 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/explainer11/explainer/Explainer11.md
12:30:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:30:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:30:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:31:06 <kaz> chair: McCool
12:31:32 <kaz> present+ Cristiano_Aguzzi, Michael_Koster
12:31:34 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:31:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:32:13 <sebastian> subtopic: wide review
12:33:33 <sebastian> MM: latest questionnaire about security can be found here https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/blob/ver11-cr-security-and-privacy-quest/publication/ver11/cr/security_and_privacy.md
12:33:55 <sebastian> MM: how about the TD explainer?
12:34:08 <sebastian> Sebastian: almost done, waiting for review
12:34:47 <sebastian> MM: Discovery will take care about Accessibility and Internationalization in the next call
12:34:56 <sebastian> topic: Marketing
12:35:13 <kaz> q+
12:35:14 <sebastian> MM: What are the next step in the WoT CG?
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12:36:12 <sebastian> Ege: We need to check what is WG/IG is doing. CG is kind of independent of it and needs collaboration
12:37:38 <mlagally> q+
12:37:59 <sebastian> MM: there is an issue to collect topic which CG can do, e.g., social media topics. Please use this topic to share the topics
12:38:35 <sebastian> https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/issues/288
12:40:05 <sebastian> MM: we also checked the member list of the CG which are over 200
12:41:23 <sebastian> Kaz: we should also discuss the expectation of the CG and should update the charter based on this decision.
12:41:30 <kaz> ack k
12:43:17 <sebastian> ML: we have different groups and may communicate to the outside, we should be careful what is shared to the outside e.g. in social media channels
12:43:19 <McCool_> q?
12:43:22 <McCool_> ack m
12:43:22 <sebastian> ack m
12:43:53 <sebastian> MM: we need to clarify the task of the CG first
12:43:58 <sebastian> topic: Testing
12:44:31 <sebastian> MM: testfest is in progress
12:44:45 <mlagally> s/we have different groups and may communicate to the outside, we should be careful what is shared to the outside e.g. in social media/we have different groups and have an agreement that all official communication from WG/IG is approved in the main call. This should not change.
12:46:54 <sebastian> ... we may need another testfest
12:47:19 <sebastian> ... to target the gaps
12:47:30 <kaz> s|we should also discuss the expectation of the CG and should update the charter based on this decision./As suggested during the Chairs call, we should (1) clarify our expectations from the WoT-IG/WG side (on the wot-marketing repo), (2) WoT CG should see which parts of those expectations should be done by the CG and (3) the CG should generate an updated Charter based on the discussion.|
12:47:35 <kaz> q?
12:47:39 <kaz> q+ Ege
12:47:40 <kaz> ack e
12:48:19 <kaz> MM: Kaz, what is needed for CR and PR?
12:48:37 <kaz> kaz: Implementation Report Plan is needed for CR
12:48:51 <kaz> ... Implementation Report with full-filled results is needed for PR
12:48:57 <kaz> q?
12:49:16 <kaz> MM: how to handle the features at-risk?
12:49:46 <kaz> kaz: we need to remove the features at-risk which are not implemented in the end for PR transition
12:50:03 <kaz> i/what is needed/scribenick: kaz/
12:50:12 <kaz> scribenick: sebastian
12:50:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:59:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:59:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
12:59:58 <sebastian> topic:  Liaisons
13:00:07 <sebastian> subtopic: OPC UA
13:00:17 <sebastian> meeting with W3M is planed to discuss next steps
13:00:30 <sebastian> subtopic: T2TRG/IETF
13:01:00 <sebastian> MM: there was a meeting last week
13:01:10 <sebastian> https://github.com/t2trg/2022-03-summary
13:01:41 <sebastian> MM: discussed on security
13:01:58 <sebastian> subtopic: OneDM
13:02:23 <sebastian> MM: any news Michel Koster
13:02:42 <sebastian> ... mainly we have a new mainling list
13:03:15 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:03:18 <sebastian> topic: TF Reports
13:03:38 <sebastian> no meetings this week due to testfest
13:03:45 <kaz> s/[adjourned]//
13:03:47 <kaz> [adjourned]
13:03:51 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:03:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/16-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:03:54 <sebastian> :-)
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