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12:00:18 <kaz> meeting: WoT Profile
12:00:25 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_McCool
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12:05:44 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
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12:06:17 <kaz> regrets+ Ben
12:06:19 <kaz> present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima
12:06:23 <kaz> topic: Agenda
12:06:35 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#WoT_Architecture_.28Profile.29_-_March_2nd.2C_2022 agenda for today
12:06:46 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Architecture_WebConf#WoT_Architecture_.28Profile.29_-_March_2nd.2C_2022
12:06:53 <kaz> mm: (goes through the agenda)
12:07:35 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian
12:07:57 <kaz> topic: Minutes
12:08:01 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2022/02/23-wot-profile-minutes.html Feb-23
12:08:57 <kaz> ml: (goes through the minutes)
12:10:12 <kaz> approved
12:10:34 <kaz> topic: Implementation report
12:11:31 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/tree/main/testing wot-profile/testing
12:11:59 <kaz> s|profile/testing|profile/testing/|
12:12:06 <kaz> mm: creating a PR
12:12:11 <kaz> ml: let's revisit later then
12:12:24 <kaz> topic: Terminology
12:12:39 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/180 Cleanup terminology
12:12:53 <kaz> ml: some troubles with ReSpec about references
12:13:03 <kaz> ... just fixed by this PR
12:13:25 <kaz> (merged)
12:13:54 <kaz> s/topic:/subtopic:/
12:14:14 <kaz> i/Terminology/topic: PRs/
12:14:41 <kaz> i|ull/180|subtopic: PR 180|
12:14:45 <kaz> subtopic: PR 133
12:15:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/133 PR 133 - Reinstating the Open Issues section
12:15:17 <kaz> ml: is everybody happy to merge this?
12:16:32 <kaz> ek: it's rather a section on "long-standing issues" than "open issues"
12:16:44 <kaz> ... ok with "open issues", though
12:16:57 <kaz> ml: ok, let's merge it
12:17:00 <kaz> (merged)
12:17:23 <kaz> subtopic: PR 118
12:17:38 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/118 PR 118 - Remove redundant Accept headers - closes #113
12:17:49 <kaz> ml: looks reasonable
12:18:28 <kaz> -> https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/wot-profile/118/d51d816...benfrancis:c7b837c.html#writeproperty diff - 5.2.1.2 writeproperty
12:18:44 <kaz> ml: (goes through the section 5.2.1.2 quickly)
12:18:46 <kaz> ... any questions?
12:18:49 <kaz> (none)
12:18:51 <kaz> ml: ok
12:18:56 <kaz> ... merging
12:18:59 <kaz> (merged)
12:19:19 <kaz> subtopic: PR 148
12:19:41 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/148 PR 148 - Specify JSON serialisation of Problem Details Format - closes #142
12:19:54 <kaz> ml: this is a clarification
12:19:59 <kaz> ... fine with merging it
12:20:04 <kaz> ... any comments?
12:20:06 <kaz> (none)
12:20:08 <kaz> (merged)
12:20:38 <kaz> q+
12:20:54 <kaz> subtopic: PR 85
12:21:08 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/85 PR 85 - Create echonetExampleTD.td.jsonld
12:21:17 <kaz> ml: merge it or close it?
12:21:25 <kaz> ek: no strong preference
12:22:08 <kaz> kaz: have you got review from Matsuda-san, etc. for htis?
12:22:12 <kaz> s/htis/this/
12:22:41 <kaz> ml: not yet
12:22:50 <kaz> kaz: would be nicer to get a quick review from them
12:22:53 <kaz> ml: good point
12:23:05 <kaz> ... should ask them for review
12:27:29 <kaz> ... (asks a review from Matsuda-san on the PR)
12:27:42 <kaz> subtopic: PR 124
12:28:04 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/124 PR 124 - Move and reword Security section
12:28:21 <kaz> ml: (goes through "Files changed")
12:28:45 <kaz> q?
12:28:46 <kaz> ack k
12:29:58 <kaz> mm: the sentence on Core Profile security to be split into two sentences
12:31:22 <kaz> ... maybe we can add a review comment
12:31:41 <kaz> ml: or we can merge this PR itself and create an additional issue/PR to modify it
12:33:34 <kaz> mm: we could change this to "Security Considerations" and should add a "Privacy Considerations"
12:34:04 <kaz> ... fine with merging this PR itself, though
12:34:33 <kaz> ml: (creates a new issue for adding a new "Privacy Considerations" section)
12:35:56 <kaz> s/creates a new issue for adding a new "Privacy Considerations" section/creates two new issues, one for "Security considerations" and another for "Privacy considerations"/
12:36:18 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/182 Issue 182 - New section: Security considerations
12:36:43 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/issues/183 Issue 183 - New Section: Privacy Considerations
12:36:57 <kaz> subtopic: PR 124
12:37:20 <kaz> s/subtopic: PR 124//
12:37:55 <kaz> (merging PR 124, and got conflicts to solve)
12:38:33 <kaz> (resolve the conflicts)
12:38:36 <kaz> (merged)
12:41:46 <kaz> subtopic: PR 181
12:42:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/181 PR 181 - WIP: Implementation Report
12:43:00 <kaz> ml: seems many lines have been removed...
12:43:07 <kaz> mm: let me fix it...
12:43:15 <kaz> (will revisit this later)
12:43:26 <kaz> subtopic: PR 146
12:43:50 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-profile/pull/146 PR 146 - Update references to WoT Thing Description 1.1 - closes #143
12:44:10 <kaz> ml: some conflicts here
12:44:35 <kaz> mm: should use the class attribute for assertion extraction
12:45:57 <kaz> ml: this block with the id of "profile-abstract-2" doesn't include any RFC2119 keywords but has the class for them
12:46:03 <kaz> mm: let's remove the class
12:47:02 <kaz> ml: (fixes the problems)
12:49:04 <kaz> topic: Event model
12:49:15 <kaz> ml: there were questions during the previous call
12:49:37 <kaz> [[
12:49:38 <kaz> do we need a single event model?
12:49:39 <kaz> do all consumers have to implement all event models?
12:49:39 <kaz> scalability requirements
12:49:39 <kaz> implementability
12:49:40 <kaz> ]]
12:49:50 <kaz> s/do we/* do we/
12:49:56 <kaz> s/do all/* do all/
12:50:04 <kaz> s/scala/* scala/
12:50:14 <kaz> s/implemen/* implemen/
12:50:21 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:50:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:50:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/02-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
12:52:21 <kaz> ml: and possible alternatives:
12:52:23 <kaz> [[
12:52:32 <kaz> completely remove events from core profile
12:52:32 <kaz> define 3 variants of core profile: core+SSE, core+longpoll, core+webhook
12:52:32 <kaz> include 3 event mechanisms in core profile, make event support optional for consumers
12:52:32 <kaz> mandate a single event model to be supported by all consumers
12:52:33 <kaz> ]]
12:52:39 <kaz> s/comp/1. comp/
12:52:44 <kaz> s/define/2. define/
12:52:49 <kaz> s/include/3. include/
12:52:58 <kaz> s/mandate/4. mandate/
12:53:10 <kaz> ml: we need McCool and Sebastian for this discussion
12:53:21 <kaz> q+
12:53:50 <Ege> q+
12:55:42 <kaz> kaz: we should explain potential use cases and then think about which levels of the use cases to be covered by the current version WoT specs
12:55:59 <kaz> ml: need to add new use cases to the use cases document?
12:56:23 <kaz> kaz: it depends on whether the requirements are already covered or not
12:56:43 <kaz> ml: think all the requirements are already covered by the existing use cases
12:56:57 <kaz> ek: the question is which use cases to be prioritized
12:57:54 <kaz> kaz: you can pick up some of the use cases and explain your need for the event handling
12:58:16 <kaz> ek: right
12:58:42 <kaz> ... we should see which level of event handling to be covered based on the existing concrete use cases
12:59:27 <kaz> ml: ok, let's have concrete discussion then
12:59:44 <kaz> [adjourned]
12:59:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:59:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/02-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
13:00:18 <kaz> chair: Lagally
13:00:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:00:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2022/03/02-wot-profile-minutes.html kaz
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